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<Swan/+report> 'mobile scud missiles still believed to be 
   operative' --cnn pentagon
<CaptainJ/+report> Saudi report that A-10 Thunderbolts are 
   being scrabled to intercept mobile scud launchers...
<Swan/+report> cnn showed a quick flash of the side of an A-
   10 warthog that had written on it 'bend over saddam'.  (no 
   kidding)
<EstoniaTV/+report> Somber Mayor of Leningrad (Sobtchak) 
   strongly condemns military actions in the Baltic States.
<CaptainJ/+report> Image of 2000lb Mk 84 bombs under F-16 
   wing (the long, green ones  :)  has inscribed:  "To Saddam" 
     >:)
<Lysatorlo/+report> help info
<Swan/+report> new brit troops sent to gulf immediately.  
   500 troops.  apparently to manage iraqi pows? (prisoners)
<Yabba-Dab> CNN: Saddam announces he GIVES UP!  heh, just 
   joking...
<CNN/+report> british troops increasing in gulf.  moshe 
   arens' comment are not the same with the us administration 
   is having of israels actions
<Swan/+report> cnn says defense ministers comments were for 
   local political consumption.  (he said he would retaliate. 
   white house still thinks he won't).  britain politicians 
   collectively praised israeli restraint in not retaliating.
<Lysatorlo/+report> p who.  help channel
<CNN/+report> us administration understands that israeli 
   will not retaliate
<CaptainJ/+report> Presidental Aides in Washington are 
   carrying gas masks as a precaution...
<CNN/+report> if there are more attacks..who knows
<Swan/+report> (summary) the worlds eyes are focused on a 
   possible israeli retaliation.  
   gorbachev/bush/britain/others lobbied israel to use 
   restraint, also lobbied arab nations to stay the course if 
   israel does retaliate.  Fears of breaking coalition and 
   arab/israeli.  war abound.
<CNN/+report> in israel people are angry..
<CAPJisCNN/+report> Presidental Aides in Washington are 
   carrying gas masks as a precaution...
<CNN/+report> finnish tv says that syria will not attack if 
   israel attacks iraq
<German_tv> walters, us ambassador bonn, germany: i'm sure 
   the allies will win, it's not america against iraq , it's 
   iraq against the allies
<CNN/+report> question - is anybody logging +report and 
   where logs can be found..
<German_tv> ...: iraq does not have nuclear wappons... 
   isreali will stay calm even if there is a new attack this 
   night...
<CAPJisCNN/+report> comment by military advisor to CNN: 
   just because Iraq has the capabilities to produce chemical 
   weapons does not mean they have the capability to deliver 
   them via missiles.  (OPINION).
<German_tv> war has become necessary after SH has left out 
   a lot of "last chances"
<Swan/+report> cspan house of reps debate going on. looks 
   like a sleeper. will check periodically.
<twelvebit> ..Manhole covers in NYC being welded shut s.t. 
   terrorists cant drop bombs down them...
<German_tv> CAPJisCNN confirm: Yesterday a german millitary 
   expert said that iraq is not able to let them explode...
<twelvebit> (s.t. = such that).  Source: CBS news in 
   newyork, earlier today.
<CAPJisCNN/+report> Military advisor says it takes 
   sophistication to release gas properly from a missile 
   delivery system.
<twelvebit> What the city is doing is welding closed the 
   manholes on major streets (takes less than 5 min per hole), 
   to prevent communications lines, etc. from being damaged by 
   a terrorist bomb.
#ruben# Temporary server at BLH going down. Ordinary server 
   up in one minute.
<jase> where is BLH
<twelvebit> New York City
<Swan/+report> cnn wall st.: up 145 points for week up 23 
   toda.  pentagon now.
<CAPJisCNN/+report> Pentagon briefing in moments - I'll 
   cover what Swan misses.  :)
<CNN/+report> ATTN briefing in pentagon Real Soon Now
<twelvebit> Keep this channel for NEWS, but, for once an 
   all, Source is CBS radio, NY.
<Swan/+report> cnn ground troops moving closer all the time 
   to kuwait border; mech inf, amphib, supply, etc.. (from cnn 
   commentator) here we go.  cnn pentagon  : satisfied with 
   progress, impressed with reliability of system and 
   performance of men and women.  coalition aircraft continue 
   to hit hard targets.
<twelvebit> capjiscnn; I'm not in nYC now...  HEard it 
   earlier.
<German_tv> millitary officials: no ground troops will be 
   involved till next week. till then iraqi defense stations 
   will be destroyed ...
<Ej/+report> test
<Swan/+report> precision targets hitting military avoiding 
   civilians.
<Jazco-ABC> news conference on ABC
<Swan/+report> (much blather).... gen kelley now. 'we are 
   45.5 hours into operation.  more than 450,000 troop in 
   theatre.
<Foo/+report> AP: Iraq claims to have hit "political, 
   economic, and scientific targets in Tel Aviv, Haifa and 
   other places in Israel" in last nights missile raid, 
   according to a government communique.  Also claims 72 
   Allied planed down.
<Swan/+report> 'happy with results but keep in mind this is 
   early.  questions.  'searching for scuds like crazy.  none 
   in civilians centers.  many scuds hit.  '
<Jazco-ABC> lost 4 us aircraft with 9 missing personel
<Swan/+report> 'number of am casulaties?'  'lost 4 us 
   aircraft with 9 people (missing)  1 might be dead not sure 
   though.'
<CAPJisCNN> All are behind enemy lines.
<German_tv> iraq adresses to all muslems in the world: 
   attack western institutions
<Swan/+report> 'no comment on rescue operations.' 'success 
   of ground war prep?' 'no comment. blah blah blah'
<Jazco-ABC> Search and rescue for missing personel is under 
   way.
<Swan/+report> 'iraqi anti aircraft/dog fight?' (int 
   officer) 'defensive iraqi posture.  8 iraqi planes down, 
   mig 29's french mirage 1's too.' 'much uncertainty about 
   numbers'
<CAPJisCNN> MiG-29's, prob. French Mirage F-1's...downed 
   (all uncertain).
<Swan/+report> 'iraqi air defense is sophisticated, 
   execution has been poor though'
<German_tv> jordanian parliament: all muslem nations should 
   leave the alliance...
<Swan/+report> 'portion of iraqi air force disabled?' 'no 
   aircraft escaped iraq that we know of.  will not discuss 
   operational aspects.  things going as planned.'
<CNN/+report> no arcraft have escaped iraq
<Swan/+report> 'american prisoners of war?'  'don't know of 
   any.  could be.'.  'apache helicopter?'  'used and working 
   well. no comment on how.'.  '2107 combat sorties flown, 196 
   missiles fired.'.  80% effectiveness appx.  looks good.  
   'allies acheived air superiority?'  'not yet'.  large army 
   will need to be rooted out.  cautioned against over 
   optimism.  lost A-6 plane today.
<German_tv> Dahran: another scud hit Dahran...
<Swan/+report> 'blah blah blah' 'no knowledge of 
   circumstances about a6 shot down.'
<Napoleon> German: Any Patriots fired?
<Swan/+report> 'all equipment has operated stunningly well.
   '   'can scuds be stopped once launched, what about patriot?
   '
<German_tv> satellite transmission time very low...
<Swan/+report> 'hitting scuds as found.' (dodged question)
<German_tv> napolean: yes but destroyed scud only seconds 
   before hitting ground
<Swan/+report> 'saddam hussein is still in charge we think. 
    took out much of communication.'.  'airstrikes (US) 
   launched from turkey?  Not sure we are launching any says 
   general.  republican guard damage?  'they've been struck.  
   no assessment of damage for public consumtion yet.'.  
   'kuwait?' (dodged)   'bio/chem centers hit affecting 
   environment around there?' 'no indication of danger.'
<stucki> quit.  sorry!
<Swan/+report> not known how many planes in iraqi shelter.  
   'percentage of iraqi air force out of question?'  (dodged 
   question).  (percentage hit I mean)
<German_tv> no more new news for now...
<Swan/+report> end of pentagon briefing.
<Belladona>  /qhois swan
<Lynx> ann sein
<Swan/+report> (many people ask what i was quoting)  That 
   was a pentagon briefing I was quoting live from cnn.
<German_tv> turkey: 3 million people refuge from areas near 
   border to center of turkey...  NATO: involvement seems to 
   be possible after us ac having acted from turkey airbase.  
   German Government argues about wether to involve the 
   parliament on decision about supporting nato or not.
<pak/+report> ?  help
<Ar-Kane/+report> Saddam Hussien is DEAD
<Mosiah/+report> damn it, I would like to let you all know 
   that was _not_ me! I can't believe it
<Eristetty/+report> DEAD?!?!?
<CNN/+report> husseins wife and children are leaving baghdad
<spike/+report> help
<CNN/+report> NO confirmations on saddams death..RUMOUR?
<snl/+report> SNL refuses to comment.
<CNN/+report> What does this mean: CNN returned to "normal 
   programming" ??
<Eristetty> shows like moneyline and etc I guess.
<CNN/+report> NOTE - I'll monitor CNN for 8-10 hours from 
   now on..  +report will have at least CNN info..  CNN does 
   not say ANYTHING about saddam being killed,just 20 minutes 
   ago they said that saddams family has lefy baghdad
<gfm/+report> If you see protestors blocking the traffic 
   like they did in Boston, HIT THEM, no court would convict 
   you
<CNN/+report> pentagon reports 8 planes lost
<BigCheese> cnn: air raid sirens in tel aviv
<CNN/+report> SIRENS IN ISRAEL JUST NOW!
<Eyal> CNN: I am not hearing anything.
<BigCheese> cnn just reported seeing something fly over tel 
   aviv (they showed video of it).  It went into the sea
<CNN/+report> SIRENS IN TEL AVIV
<Eyal> ely: cnn saying sirens in tel aviv now.
<Eristetty> Could be another false alarm.
<mwk> When into the sea? Just now?
<BigCheese> cnn just videoed something flying over tel aviv 
   but overshooting it toward the sea
<CNN/+report> bigcheese - take CNN
<Eyal> CNN: I would of heard it i am 20 minutes from tel-
   aviv.
<Ely> Eyal: strange, just talked to a friend there and he 
   logged out suddenly
<mwk> Eyal: Where are you exactly?
<BigCheese> eyal: heard the sirens on cnn, they have 
   stopped now
<CNN/+report> Nothing on BBC yet
<Emmett/+report> Report coming out of Jordan.....their 
   parliament just took a vote .....
<Ely> I didnt hear anything here in jerusalem
<Eyal> Big: strange, i would of heard them from here, i 
   think i heard a very low one just a minute ago (thought it 
   was wind).  I am also listening to the radio so i can't 
   hear a thing.
<CNN/+report> nothing on french TV-5 yet..
<BigCheese> cnn: no more noise in tel aviv (on planes 
   overhead).  on=only.  cnn is now just showing a live scene 
   of tel aviv.  nothing new yet.
<Eyal> ok, on the radio they just told us.
<Ely> Radio: alarm on TA, and clear-off immed
<Eyal> Ely: geez... our radio is so late with the news ;)
<Ely> Radio: prob nothing to worry about.
<leviathan> is hati on the net?
<Ely> Eyal: thats right!
<Eyal> Ely: i think they did that in order not to get 
   everyone into panic.
<Ely> Nati cant join us even if he wanted to. technion 
   computers are non-linked/shutoff.
<leviathan> thanks ely
<CNN/+report> give goofy chanop ..he'll cover AP..thanks..
<Eyal>
<BigCheese> cnn reporting relative calm in SA, but 
   expecting air raids (between 1 and 4 in the morning they 
   expect it).  all clear sirens in tel aviv
<leviathan> eyal, ely is all cool there?  wait CNN says ALL 
   CLEAR siren being sounded
<Eyal> leviathan: I heard a very low siren 3 minutes ago
<leviathan> just a second ago, CNN reported the all clear 
   siren in Tel Aviv
<BigCheese> iraqi un abassador on cnn justifying their 
   attacks on israel
<Eyal> a russian satellite got burn.
<Ely> IL Radio: Soviet satelite burned..
<Eyal> and that was the reason for the siren.
<Ely> IL Radio: caused alert => sirens
<leviathan> what do you mean by BURNED?
<AP> it is said the B-52 bombers are presumed to be used on 
   todays air raids..
<Ely> right back..
<AP> baghdad still reports 23 deaths only.
<leviathan> eyal, a russian satellite BURNED? what do you 
   mean?
<CNN/+report> Bernie in Jordan!
<Eyal> leviathan: went out of operation and off to the 
   galaxy.
<leviathan> thanks
<BigCheese> cnn meant Bernard Shaw.  cnn reporting 11 
   mobile missles launchers discovered, 6 hit.  cnn update 
   that to 10 missle launceher hit (mobile).  cnn reports 196 
   cruise missles fired.  those cnn numbers were totals to date
<leviathan> good call guys, CNN confirms satellite re-entry
<Emmett/+report> Air raid sirens were caused by a Soviet 
   Satellite re-entering the earth's atmosphere....so it was a 
   false alarm.
<CNN/+report> the alert in israel was caused by russian 
   satellite re-entering earth and burning
<Emmett/+report> Air raid sirens were caused by a Soviet 
   Satellite re-entering the earth's atmosphere....so it was a 
   false alarm.
<jph/+report> 196 missles fired at WHO?
<mwk> What 196 missiles?
<gfm/+report> SInce we are the only ones with Cruise 
   missles, I suspect AT Iraq
<BigCheese> cnn shows some very impressive bombings!  Of 
   course they don't show the misses :)
<jph/+report> On CNN someone is giving a speach
<Eyal> I am hearing either wind or another siren somewhere 
   else.
<Eyal>
<CNN/+report> PLEASE - ask questions with /m , answers to 
   public.  this means in +report -channel, +WAR is for more 
   free discussions
<Ryman/+report> damn
<Eyal> IL Radio: Holland will give israel patriot missiles.
<gfm/+report> thanks for that informative report, Ryman
<Eyal> IL Radio: Seria promised not to get involvled if 
   israel will attack.  CNN showed the satallite going into 
   the sea.  correction, Seria=Syria.
<leviathan> i am truly sorry to see such activity on your 
   sabbath, Ely and Eyal.
<BigCheese> cnn report it wasn't a satellite after all.  
   cnn: it was a decying soviet booster rocket
<CNN/+report> BBC - soldier suggests that MiG-29:s are 
   still in operating condition somewhere in iraq
<Eyal/+report> Isreal is highly expecting another attack 
   very soon.
<leviathan> eyal, keep us informed so long as you are not 
   in danger, please!!
<CNN/+report> US prime target is scuds now
<Eristetty> is there anyway to have the messages sent to 
   other groups than +WAR?
<jph/+report> so now the only problem with Israel fighting 
   is the air coordination
<leviathan> another A-6 Intruder plane lost, now total of 4 
   US planes lost
<Eyal/+report> i have the computer in the sealed room, and 
   the computer is my radio.
<leviathan> CNN reported.  good planning eyal, it is much 
   appreciated
<CNN/+report> A-6 Intruder lost during the last few hours
<bhaskar/+report> I think saddam has a few surprises left
<leviathan> Iraqi radio reports 70+ American planes shot 
   down--obviously bogus propaganda
<jph/+report> Saddam'll have to quit sooner or later
<bhaskar/+report> SADDAM MIGHT HAVE HID A FEW PLANES IN 
   BUNKERS
<leviathan> what good are planes with no runways?
<bhaskar/+report> the runways can be temporarily put back 
   to service again at a short notice
<leviathan> what is short notice?  sounds risky
<bhaskar/+report> short notice means emergency repairs
<tiger> Has Iraq got harriers? They don't need runways...
<CNN/+report> leviathan and others.. NEWS reports only in 
   +report..if you want to discuss, join +WAR, you'll the the 
   same news relayed from +report via peaceserv
<bhaskar/+report> IRAQ doesn't have harriers or VERTICAL 
   LANDING AND TAKEOFF AIRCRAFT
<jph/+report> Iraq doesn't have AV-8B's since those are 
   UK/US only
<CNN/+report> saudi general..iraqi chemical wapons almost 
   completely destroyed
<leviathan> ely, eyal, you still there?
<Eyal/+report> The suggestion of patriot missiles from 
   holland was an acadamic suggestion.
<AP> Someone needs to cover AP news now.  It can be heard 
   on most AM stations..
<CNN/+report> White house doing additional draft?
<Leviathan> not draft, just activation of more reservists 
   and extension of service for those reservists already active
<Flynn> Not that I know of.
<CNN/+report> eastern will cease operations tonight!  sweet 
   crude $19.25
<Swan/+report> according to an intelligence report 
   circulated in pentagon, part of report read to mercury news 
   official, appx 150,000 rep guards killed/wounded when 
   caught in staging area by US b52's early in war.  Pentagon 
   won't confirm.  Some said it sounded high.
<Flynn> Anyone here from Israel?
<Eyal/+report> me.
<tiger> From Baltics: Estonians are building barricades to 
   protect the
<Flynn> What's up in Israel, then?
<tiger> Parliament building against Inter-movement/KGB 
   troop attacks.
<Eyal/+report> everything is calm at the moment.
<tiger> Finnish Text-tv
<Jazco> Iraq claims to have POWs.  ABC
<axel/+report> hello
<Flynn> Are there any other middle east Internet sites here?
<CNN/+report> telephone call from Kuwait (unverified) says 
   that there is panic among iraq soldiers in kuwait.  israeli 
   ambassador to USA in CNN.  blahblahblah..doesn't say much..
   "Our goverment decides how and when we'll act".  isreali 
   ambassador to US suggests that if (PLO/etc) enemies of 
   israel come to the meting table, israel can be very generous
<Jazco-ABC> ~rM kS;}i-y}i{w%]~r~r{s_{}MR~Oi~{79'.  sorry 
   line problem
<Swan/+report> jordans parliament calls to strike out 
   against US and allies.
<CNN/+report> Jordan has said some STRONG words against 
   USA/allies.  more reservists will be activated?
<lolo/+report> (german radio) (maybe old) syria says it'll 
   switch sides if israel retaliates
<Swan/+report> US red cross calls for blood donars.  troops 
   are preparing for chemical warfare (as usual, nothing new). 
    military experts expect a ground war sometime soon. 
   (several days or sooner?)
<Poet/+report> have any of you seen DoomFrog lately?  
   Please RESPOND.....
<Swan/+report> (people requesting republican guard 
   bombardment report again) (san jose mercury news): 
   preliminary estimates indicate as many as 150,000 members 
   of republican guard were wounded or killed when caught in a 
   single staging area by US b52 bombers on first.  night of 
   war.  experts inside and outside govt. agreed that sounded 
   high but agreed guards suffered heavy losses.  "from all 
   indications from a variety of credible sources, it appears 
   that in excess of 100,000 republican guards were removed."
<CNN/+report> US oil compoanies lowering their prices!
<Swan/+report> (for contrast, appx 50,000 americans were 
   killed in the entire vietnam conflict).  of course the 
   republican guard thing could be propaganda to try and make 
   iraq capitulate. :)
<Jazco-ABC> US oil price for the day 19.25 a barrell.
<Flynn> This is a test -- please ignore it.  lynx;<grin>
<lolo/+report> has anybody seen nati since last night?
<CNN/+report> Bernie Shaw and other CNN people that left 
   Baghdad will arrive to Amman within the hour..
<jph/+report> nati's net went down
<CNN/+report> CNN switching to Crossfire.  full coverage on 
   the hour
<lolo/+report> (german radio) 28 iraqi military men have 
   fled to turkey in the last few days.  german tv reports on 
   new peace proposal from the ussr at the un
<niai2/+report> 4:42 pm on west coast.  Who is watching CNN 
   now /
<CNN/+report> me of course..crossfire just on..
<niai2/+report> what is the result of the Isreali Summit ?
<CNN/+report> Bernie Shaw and other CNN folks soon LIVE 
   from Amman, Jordan!
<Swan/+report> hey you!  Consider donating blood very 
   seriously.  Many people feel helpless to do anything well 
   here's your chance.  Red cross calling for donars.
<CNN/+report> Jordan report at the hour
<Frodo/+report> ORF: 1st day of war did cost 1/2 billion 
   US$, second even more
<CNN/+report> bernie ALIVE in CNN
<Swan/+report> they have bernard shaw in jordan live on cnn.
<CNN/+report> bernie looking tired
<Swan/+report> bernard shaw '3 cnn folk in baghdad still'. 
   'left because iraqi's would not let us do our job.'  
   'censorship restrictions'.  'we will be circumspect about 
   what we saw as to not endanger CNN people in baghdad'.  ' 
   we brought back 8 thirty minute tapes (!) with us'
<CNN/+report> they had sad time leaving those 3 there..they 
   want to keep they mouth shut because of those 3 still in 
   baghdad
<Pharoah/+report> Rambo is headed for the Kuwaiti border ;)
<Swan/+report> 'govt last night took two CNN cameras that 
   were recording constantly during bombardments. hope to get 
   them back.'.  (the iraqi govt confiscated them that is).  
   showing footage now.  footage is of anti aircraft fire very 
   similar to that seen before.  so far.
<Leviathan> ely, eyal, all quiet tonight>
<CNN/+report> showing just the normal artillery footage, 
   with bernie comments
<Swan/+report> these are low light camera pictures.  the 
   sky is lit up like.. fourth of july.  very impressive.  
   sounds of air-raid sirens and AA fire.  (pentagon experts 
   noted previously that the AA fire was very poorly directed, 
   unguided).  CNN witnessed chaff dropped from planes.  
   huuuge cruise missile hit.  totally lit up sky.  bernard 
   shaw describes mad race for border.  Says iraqi govt went 
   out of way to help them.  Bernard thanked King Hussein of 
   jordan for help.  (the race for border was by his cnn crew 
   only didn't mean to imply mass exodus though i did hear 
   jordan is accepting refugees as is syria)
<Leviathan> swan, where are you getting your information?
<CNN/+report> bernie thanks iraqi information ministry for 
   assistance
<Swan/+report> bernard froze when he saw russian booster 
   rocket falling to earth.  (this russian booster was 
   mistaken for incoming SCUD by cnn live crew in tel aviv 
   earlier today)
<CNN/+report> CNN having a break just now
<Swan/+report> (this is all from CNN, bernard shaw is a CNN 
   anchor who was in baghdad during attack)
<jon/+report> Another side of the story +IRAQ
<Swan/+report> (cnn hosts formerly in baghdad):  ("what 
   happened when you signed off?") 'we spent 12 hours in bomb 
   shelter last night in hotel w/elderly people crying babies 
   and widowers.  3-400 people.  'we sneaked out of bomb 
   shelter.. they wouldn't let us out.  iraqis were very 
   security and safety conscious at hotel.' '[whining about 
   conditions]'
<Leviathan> logout
<Swan/+report> (points out jordans parliament called for 
   arabs to strike US and side with Iraq)
<beans> where is swan?
<Swan/+report> I'm in santa cruz california. In group +war
<beans> are you talking to someone in israel?
<Swan/+report> (bernard asked about feelings) 'I was afraid 
   to feel anything, wanted to be professional.' 'i thought 
   about people at ground 0.  Thought about the hell they 
   experienced.'
<CNN/+report> repeating the beginning of CNN war coverage
<Swan/+report> '
#jon# The _Other_ Side of the Story, +IRAQ
<CNNRules/+report> Hi!
<Swan/+report> the united kingdom has no main battle tanks 
   in england. they are all in saudi arabia.  cnn: iraq's 
   information minister called for moslems/arabs to attack 
   allied interests and targets.
<CNN/+report> newsconference in baghdad "All arabs against 
   allied forces".  B-52:s /cruise missiles attack in baghdad
<Swan/+report> (cnn got that wrong)
<CNN/+report> sorry all folks, I have been awake for 20 
   hours now.. :(
<Swan/+report> cloud cover today hampered efforts to find 
   scud missiles, made flying more dangerous and dodging SAM's 
   more difficult.  Many planes landed without dropping their 
   bombs, a dangerous thing to do apparently.  Cluster bombs 
   are being used on targets.
<CNN/+report> air war is going to continue till february
<Swan/+report> attacks on republican guards were stepped up 
   a good deal today.  Apache helicopters and A-10 wathog tank 
   killers used for first time to hit iraqi armor and 
   personell. (this stuff from abc).  (the reason the attacks 
   were stepped up and these weapons used was because of 
   earlier successes against anti-air capability of Iraq).  
   iraq mined turkish border.  5 iraqi defections says turkey. 
    mines to stop desertions and possible turkish attack. (we 
   know turkey allowed US planes to attack from turkish air 
   bases, and parliament authorized turkish attack and pres. 
   war powers).  someone on larry king: japanese were pounded 
   on iwo jima for 75 days, and they had nowhere to hide.  
   Americans lost 25,000 in invasion.  (eastern airlines went 
   belly up tonight).  attacks on iraq will continue without 
   letup through february before there is a ground attack says 
   pentagon/cnn.  no indication that king hussein will follow 
   through on his parliaments call to attack US/allies and 
   side with saddam.
<Unix> all quiets?
<CNN/+report> Nothing important on CNN: larry king show..  
   pentagon says that the war is likely to continue till 
   February
<Unix/+report> alls quiet?
<Eyal/+report> Jerusalem siren went off just now; army is 
   checking out the matter.  no confirmation yet.  an 
   explosion was heared in Jerusalem, still checking the 
   reason...
<Flynn> Eyal, where are you exactly?
<Eyal/+report> I am north to Jerusalem (35 minutes away by 
   car).  I am hearing avery low siren but the radio said only 
   Jerusalem area should wear masks and remain in their sealed 
   rooms.  I repeat: the matter is still being checked not 
   known yet if it is an attack.
<CNN/+report> from san diego 1300 soldiers go to war
<Eyal/+report> Israel Radio: still checking the matter of 
   the explosion in Jerusalem.  Explosion in Jerusalem still 
   being checked out.  Israel Radio: North of town there were 
   tests and nothing was found; civilians are free to take 
   their masks off now.
<CNN/+report> pentagon taking civilian air carries in 
   action to deliver material/personnel to the war area.. 
   recent sirens in Jerusalem a FALSE ALARM
<Eyal/+report> There were tests on the area of the 
   explosion but nothing was found.  I repeat: Jerusalem 
   people are now able to take their masks off but remain at 
   home.
<Doom_Frog/+report> Everyone who scheduled flights with 
   Eastern before midnight will get a full refund (Fox 50)
<CNN/+report> UN confirms that a soviet peace initiative 
   doex exist and saddam is aware of it
<Doom_Frog/+report> fox50: Saddam Hussein has demanded any 
   resolution of the crises be linked to the Palestinian 
   question
<Ravage/+report>  "Flight of the Intruder" starts tonight 
   on 1500 screens.
<Doom_Frog/+report> fox50: The air raid sirens turned out 
   to be a false alarm
<Ravage/+report> Renewed tension in another Soviet Republic.
   ....
<Eyal/+report> Israel Radio - There was no sign of a 
   missile at the explosion in Jerusalem but it is still not 
   clear of what it was.  Seriya said if Israel attacked due 
   to protecting itself Seriya would not help Iraq and stay 
   out.  Egypt is staying out of the war.  Moning light is 
   raising upon Israel and without any missiles attack this 
   time but with one explosion in Jerusalem that its source is 
   not known yet.  third night of the war has passed away 
   leaving Israel un-damaged this time and I am signing off to 
   get abit sleep, thank you all for your nice support.
#Eyal# Bye all from Rehovot, Israel.
#Hamlet# goodbye all for now ;-)
<Chronos> Any new developments ... Israeli attacks , ... 
   etc ...  Have'nt heard of any ...
<Flynn> Is there currently anyone from nonUSA here?
<Ely> alrarm has been sounded in jerusalem before 2 minutes
<Flynn> Are you in Jerusalem, Ely?
<Ely> Israel under missile attake (IDF spokeman).  yes 
   flynn.  Alarm again
<Flynn> The attack has been confirmed?
<Ely> i dont know, IDF spokeman says it's missile attack]
<Flynn> Did he say anything else?
<Ely> there were few false alarms before.  {
<Flynn> Are you at home?  School?
<Ely> home.  Well, who knows
<Flynn> Well, good luck; let us now what happens...
<Eyal/+report> Sirens are off all through out Isreal here.
<Flynn> NBC says that air-raid sirens in Tel Aviv have been 
   accompanied by four explosions.  Ely, you've been orded 
   into gas masks?
<Pentheus/+report> NBC and CNN are reporting new missle 
   attacks on Tel Aviv -- between 4 and 12 detonations 
   reported.  No pentagon confirmation at this time.
<dodo1> ..  CBS reports new attack on Israel
<Eyal/+report> I have mask on and i am inside my sealed 
   room.  I am hearling aircrafts.  i can't tell what 
   direction they're going.
<Flynn> What do you think about Israel's apparent 
   willingness not to retailiate yet?
<NWM/+report> Live reports from Tel Aviv confirm new 
   missile hits approx 7:15 am local time.  No info on warhead 
   types.
<Ely> If it's really another attack - i dont know
<Flynn> NBC reports many American commercial aircraft 
   ordered to perform in airlift to Middle East.
#Eyal# Isreal is being attacked, I hear booms (Israel).
<Ely> it's 7:37am now
<Ryman/+report> NBC - as many as 6 or 7 missles
<Flynn> Ely, where are you and do you hear anything?
#Eyal# radio tells us to keep masks on.
<Steve/+report> CNN says sirens off in Jerusalem.
<Ely> jerusalem., nothing hear or on the radio.  yes, radio 
   asks to keep wearing masks/stay in sealed room
<Flynn> Good luck, y'all..  [ :/ ]
#Eyal# I am /walling from Rehovot, Israel.
<Steve/+report> CNN sez Pentagon Confirms SCUD attacks on 
   Israel.
<Flynn> CNN reports no impacts in Jerusalem.
<cosABC> Explosions are to the east of the hotels area
#Eyal# Rehovot is 20 minutes away from Tel-Aviv by car.
<Steve/+report> No mention on warhead types yet, but 
   explosions indicate no chemicals...  CNN: Pentagon thinks 
   Israel may retaliate this time.
<beans> eyal-  are you in a shelter?
<Flynn> Ely, Eyal, please tell us all you can -- this is 
   the only channel I'll trust not to be censored.
#Eyal# I am inside my sealed room with mask on.
<Flynn> Steve -- east of hotel in which city?
<Ely> radio repeats IDF spokeman announcement: "becasue of 
   a missile attack a REAL alarm has been sounded, ppl wear 
   masks and stay in sealed room.  ".  nothing goes on here in 
   jerusalem, unlike eyal i dont hear any booms..
<Steve/+report> CNN: Explosions still in TelAviv
#Eyal# I can't answer /m please understand people.
<Steve/+report> CNN: IDF Will not disclose location of 
   explosions in TelAviv
#Eyal# my room is fully sealed.
<Ely> IDF spokeman: from hedera area to north: clear-off 
   signal has been sounded.  kiryat-gat and south : clear off 
   signal
#Eyal# ok, some israel parts can take their masks off.
<cosABC> Ehud Olmert, Health Minister, talking to ABC: 
   retaliation is almost inevitable now.  Not a matter of 
   prestige, simply a matter that the Americans have not been 
   completely successful, and there is no other choice for 
   Israel.
<Ely> and area between hedera and ashkelon : stay with 
   masks.
<cosABC> (Israeli health minister)
<dodo1> Israeli authorities reporting some casualties (CBS)
#Eyal# i am south from tel-aviv, foo i think i must be a 
   winner to remember that now ;)
<Steve/+report> CNN:  IDF Spokesman in shelter 
   w/correspondant says that they expect all-clear to be 
   signaled soon and all will go back to normal in TelAviv, 
   whatever Normal is...
<Ely> just to make clear: TA citizens must stay with masks
#Eyal# my mask is still on and i am still in the sealed 
   room.
<Flynn> Ely, how close are you to Tel Aviv?
<Ely> Flynn: far, Jerusalem.
<dodo1> anybody here from Tel Aviv ?
#Eyal# Ely is in Jerusalem, I am in Rehovot.
<Ely> Flynn: but as far as i understand 'tll now i sho
<EricBlade> Doubt it...
<cosABC> Rehovot is not that far from Tel Aviv...
<beans> ABC reports airplanes overhead in ta
<Ely> uld stay with mask. no clear off signal here yet
<Steve/+report> CNN:  TelAviv expected to be as it was 
   yesterday; i.e. light civilian casualties.
#Eyal# tell me Ely when i can take my mask off, i have no 
   idea what are they talking about on the radio.
<Flynn> Have you two heard anything else?
<Ely> I suggest we wait for a official report from IDF 
   spokeman. CNN info isnt too clear
#Eyal# some of us don't want my /wall's so i shall stop now.
<EricBlade> CBS Radio: Tel Aviv is bad off, with casualties 
   reported nearly instantly after the attack, which they say 
   means they are bad off.  CBS Radio: 8 missiles w/ 
   conventionals.
<Ely> i cant reply every /m guys, sorry.
#Eyal# ok all of you who aren't interested in my /wall can 
   just suffer, most of us here want it.
<Ely> TV came back on..right now : music..
<cosABC> Eyal: people who don't want your /walls can ignore 
   them.  Tell them so.
<Steve/+report> CNN: "Pretty confident now that it is not a 
   chemical attack"
#Eyal# you may issue /ignore eyal all if you wish.
<Flynn> NBC just stopped reporting.  Grrrr.
<EricBlade> Israel claims that they've known Iraq planned 
   to attack (CLAIMED to plan to attack) since April - CBS 
   Radio.
<Ely> RAdio transmit same msg in few language now
<EricBlade> No word on retaliation, although Israel isn't 
   expected to stand doing nothing.
<Jazco> ABC: Said israel said to keep on gas masks
<Eyal/+report> i am waiting for further instructions now.
<beans> Eyal can you hear anything outside?
<EricBlade> Israeli jets have scrambled - CBS Radio.  
   Apparently Israeli jets are scrambling...
<Ryman/+report> NBC Those high pitched noises you sometimes 
   hear, dogs blowing human whistles
<Jazco> ABC: US is retracing SCUD trajorectory and are 
   moving to the source
<EricBlade> CBS Radio cut...
<cosABC> Israeli Health Minister, who is on the cabiner, 
   said retaliation is now "almost inevitable", that is some 
   word on retaliation, though obviously not definitive...
<Eyal/+report> people are asked to remain with masks and in 
   the sealed rooms.
<Steve/+report> Police and Army patroling streets of 
   TelAviv, people should be staying inside -- CNN.
<Eyal/+report> i can't see very well from my masks here.
<EricBlade> ISraeal masks off confirmed...
#Eyal# no sign of chimical weapons yet.
#Eyal# Israel Radio station is avoiding other stations now..
   .
<EricBlade> Eastern Airlines has announced a permanent 
   shutdown.
#Eyal# people can leave the sealed rooms now and calm...
<Flynn> NBC reports no chemicals, and that army radio 
   reports that it was a missle attack.
<cosABC> ABC reports Israel has told them they have been 
   too specific with maps / explosion locations.
<Ely> Well,
<Flynn> NBC reports as few as 4 missles or as many as 10.
<dodo1> 9:04 in the morning in the Persian Gulf, 8:04 in 
   the morning in Israel
<cosABC> Ely, how are your relatives?
<Ely> they sue heard a boom. they are in Ramat-Avivarea
<Flynn> How are you relatives, Ely?
<Ely> sue=sure
<EricBlade> 7 unconfirmed reports of explosion
<Eyal> go ahead and report Ely i will add if needed.
<Jazco-ABC> 7 explosions in c hcx.  please ignore last 
   statement
<Eyal> I heard four big booms here...
<Ely> well, again - ppl can remove masks/get out of 
   w3seales room in whole country
<Jazco-ABC> That was 7 explosions in Tel Aviv
<EricBlade> CBS News off locally..
<FinnTV> FinnTV1 reported of 10 missiles in the news that 
   started a minute ago.
<Eyal> I hear aircrafts.  ely: do you hear them as well?
<Flynn> NBC news going to political reports.  [ :b ]  Ely, 
   Eyal, any other information you can give us?
<Ely> Eyal: not yet.
<Eyal> Ely: man, i am too close to all that was happening, 
   i heard every boom.  I don't care if Israel will retilate 
   now anymore, i've had it with them Iraqians.
<Ely> Eyal: dont worry..even chemical warhead is 100m range
<EricBlade> Ely and Eyal: Good luck. We wish you all luck...
<Ely> Eyal: :-)
<Flynn> BB World Services reports 4 explosions in Tel Aviv 
   and 7 in Jerusalem.
<Ely> few "codes" over radio now.
<Flynn> NBC reports just three.
<Eyal> serious code.
<cosABC> ABC showing pictures of Tel Aviv, skyline appears 
   undamaged
<Flynn> Eyal, Ely, how old are y'all?
<Ely> ok, all clean signal here
<Flynn> NBC reports just three in Tel Aviv, sorry.
<EricBlade> It is suspected that there may have been one 
   near Jerusalem...
<Leviathan> pentagon confirms iraqi launch on israel - CNN
<dutchman> Could someone give me a report of the lateest 
   news, like since 7pm EST?  thanks.
<Ryman/+report> Retaliation just needs a "When, Where and 
   How" (NBC)
<Dweezil> eyal, ely - thanks so much for keeping your 
   fingers tapping here...
<dodo1> CBS: known terrorists have enteres US ... attacks 
   expected within 48 hours
<Eyal> ok it was nothing , fooo...
<Flynn> Yes, thanks very much.
<EricBlade> dodo: CBS TV or radio? No such report on radio.
<Ely> Well, something sure happend in TA..ppl heard booms 
   there.
<beans> ABC tweo israeli jets just flew over Teol aviv
<Leviathan> ely, eyal, you all still all right? any word on 
   retaliation?
<Ely> TV  = IDF signal : all can get out of sealed room, 
   but stay home.
<Leviathan> ely, eyal, please stay in
<Eyal> had to fix my radio's antana my mom just bend it ;)
<Flynn> NBC reports that the missles were launched from 
   western Iraq.
<Ely> signal= spokeman..exuce me.
<Leviathan> eyal, how is your family doing?
<BigCheese> Is anyone reporting cnn here?
<Dweezil> not lateley
<BigCheese> Cause I'm watchin it and I'll report from cnn
<Flynn> NBC reports Pentagon confirms three missles from 
   western Iraq to israel.
<Danielle/+report> has anyone heard from Nita in Haifa 
   since last night?
<Dweezil> please do, bigcheese
<Steve/+report> CNN: Correspondant in TelAviv is prohibited 
   from telling exactly how many blasts he heard.
<Ely> Danielle: it's Nati. dont worry, only that his host 
   shutoff.
<EricBlade> CBS Radio here died.. apparently the station is 
   having problems.. (I'm in the US don't worry. :> ).  Ely: 
   Is there any idea when his host will be back online, and if 
   he will be online when it is?
<Eyal> ok i am back on.
<Flynn> Good to see you again Eyal.  :)
<BigCheese> cnn confirms 3 missiles from western iraq as 
   well
<Flynn> NBC reports that Baghdad Radio reported launching 
   "elevn misles at the enemy"
<dodo1> CBS Bush awakened by Snowcroft ... he is on phone 
   with Shamir ... has made no comment yet
<Steve/+report> CNN: Pentagon confirms 3 missile launches 
   from western Iraq, pentagon will not say if they are SCUDS.
<Ely> ERicBlade: guess it'll come back after emergency 
   situation goes off. no idea exactly
<Ryman/+report> NBC says Saddam may be communicating with 
   troops/army over Radio Bagdad
<Flynn> NBC: Miltary analyst talking about how weak the 
   response actually was.
<BigCheese> Gen. Perry Smith still thinks Israel will 
   restrain itself from retaliation
<Flynn> (Sorry -- how weak this was as an attack.)
<dodo1> bigcheese's info confirmed by CNN
<Steve/+report> CNN: Israel didn't have time to set up 
   Patriots.  Hence, SCUDS came in untouched.
<dodo1> add on to steve: no final word on what type of 
   missiles they were
<cosABC> Israel's patriot missile are new and have not yet 
   been installed, they will be of no use in coming days/weeks
<Flynn> NBC: NNC Correspondent in Tel Aviv talking about 
   his impresion of things -- "the alert continues, we've 
   heard that four locations in Tel Aviv have been hit'.  NBC 
   BBC Correspondent -- no chemical weapons
<Steve/+report>  Correct on the correction.
<Leviathan> flynn: what is NNC?
<Flynn> A typo for BBC.  [ :) ]
<Jazco-ABC> do you here helicopters in or around Tel Aviv
<Steve/+report> CNN:  Gen. Perry Smith:  "No military sense 
   to a retaliation"
<Dweezil> folks - can we please keep the crosstalk to a 
   minimum??
<Flynn> Hello, Israel.  Can you add anything to what's 
   being said?
<ISRAEL> No helicopters in Jerusalem
<EricBlade> Israel has Nuke capability right?  I pray to 
   God/Allah/whoever the heck you believe in that they don't 
   use them...
<ISRAEL> All-Clear messages in about 10 languages were 
   issued on the Israeli radio
<Eyal> Marx: you kept changing your nick i couldn't praymot 
   you ;)
<Steve/+report>  Keep discussion, etc. in +WAR, save 
   +report for news.
<Ely> EricBlade: we wont.
<BigCheese> cnn: wasting time until more reports from 
   israel :)
<ISRAEL> NOW all clear msg in amahari
<Flynn> NBC: Doing likewise
<ISRAEL> Anyone got some normal report? we are censored.
<Ger-ABC> radio baghdad: 11 missiles launched...all at 
   Israel.
<dodo1> please keep personal opinions, comments out of this 
   channel
<Flynn> Israel - where is Amahari?
<Ely> Israel: hesard any booms? some says they launched to 
   jerusalem some
<Danielle/+report> AB showed picture of TA skyline with 
   thin column of smoke to NW.
<Ryman/+report> <smirk> Quayle trying to take credit for 
   passing Patriot funding.
<ISRAEL> Amahari is a lnaguage
<Dweezil> FOLKS - TAKE THE DISCUSSION to +WAR.  +REPORT is 
   **NEWS ONLY**
<ISRAEL> Ely: Heard nothing, r u in Jerusalem now?
<Eyal> ger: come on abc is not accurate at all.
<ISRAEL> WHAT DO U SEE IN CNN NOW?
<Flynn> Oh.  [ :) ]  Sorry.
<ISRAEL> For those who write me pvt msgs, do it in /notice 
   since i am using an old client
<Ely> Israel: yes, my grandmother heard boom. (ramat-aviv 
   area)
<BigCheese> cnn: counter terrorism expert talking about 
   missile attacks (time wasting)
<Flynn> Where are you, Israel, and did you see/hear 
   anything?
<cosABC> ABC showing videotape of damage
<ISRAEL> I am in Jerusalem Israel, Fighter jets are above 
   my head all night.
<BigCheese> cnn: counter terrorism expert says second 
   attack on israel undermines israel confidence in 
   government/military
<Eyal> I hear another group of aircrafts right now.
<ISRAEL> CNN have reports, WHAT IS NOW SHOWN ON CNN?
<Leviathan> ISRAEL: CNN is interviewing "EXPERTS". no new 
   news.
<BigCheese> cnn: still talking with specialists speuclating 
   on stuff
<Eyal> Radio keeps telling to take masks off and walk 
   around the homes.
<Flynn> NBC reports, again, three explosions in Tel Aviv.
<Ely> hey, a sec. i have first hand source
<Steve/+report> CNN: Going to TelAviv now..
<Leviathan> CNN going live to Tel Aviv.
<BigCheese> cnn: going to interview witness
<Ely> aix is in TA, he has some info:
<Eyal> Ely: I can't believe even before i heard the first 
   boom CNN claimed 11 hits ;)
<Flynn> Ely - you are a first hand source.
<Ely> Aix: will you?
<dodo1> 9:28 in Saudi Arabia ... 8:28 in Israel
<Jazco-ABC> at q0 s0=3 s7=8 x4 v0
<AIX> I'v heard 4 boom's
<ISRAEL> What the hell is going on in CNN?
<Eyal> I AM GOING TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW HERE - HOLD PEOPLE.
<BigCheese> witness: basically said he saw a missile hit a 
   building,
<Ely> Aix: where are you exactly?
<ISRAEL> AIX is in TEl-Aviv, stay tuned
<AIX> one missile have blown between ramat - gan and tel - 
   aviv
<Steve/+report> CNN:  Reporting about an undetonated bomb 
   found in a building.  Gov't is preventing full details.
<Ely> aK3i0L.Fww3
<AIX> I live near tel - aviv (rama -gan)
<ISRAEL> AIX: r u "bavli" ?
<BigCheese> cnn: gone back to the "experts" view again
<AIX> I can see no damage
<Steve/+report> CNN:  Switched back to analists before I 
   got details.
<AIX> israel no
<Flynn> Aix -- did you see missles, planes, anything?
<ISRAEL> Israeli radio broadcasting Schubert
<AIX> I havn't saw the missiles just the hit.
<BigCheese> cnn: smoke over tel aviv (tape I think)
<AIX> I can see few of our planes
<Eyal> the sky are abit gray towards Tel-Aviv's way, and 
   there is a wierd smell.
<BigCheese> cnn: only one plume of smoke visible
<Leviathan> eyal, watch out for that smell.
<Surge/+report> CNN:  From Tel Aviv:  One possible 
   unexploded warhead roped off in a building.  (unofficial)
<ISRAEL> Eyal is not far from a major military airfield, so 
   his sky is very active
<Jazco-ABC> put on your mask for safty
<Flynn> I thought you still had your mask on, Eyal?
<Eyal> well they told me not to worry on the radio so i 
   felt like getting abit of a smoke tan ;)
<Ely> everything OK in jerusalem so far. at least my area 
   talpiot
<Steve/+report> CNN:  From TelAviv:  I think that is 
   official.
<Flynn> NBC reports 20 airlines ordered to provide 200 
   aircraft for airlift.
<Eyal> my mask been off for 20 minutes already.
<ISRAEL> my area rehavia/kiryat-shmuel is quiet
<Ely> Eyal: well, dont put economica in you room...cl2 is 
   dangerous..:-)
<Steve/+report> CNN: Smoke over TelAviv is bad, Iraq can 
   use it to target missiles...
<Eyal> Ely: i know ;)
<ISRAEL> Ely studies 5 units of Chemistry.
<Eyal> ok only news please.
<Steve/+report> CNN: General Smith sez smoke isn't a 
   problem.
<Dweezil> cnn: scud is very inaccurate
<Flynn> NBC reports that the airlift is intended to provide 
   supplies.
<Surge/+report>  Worries that Iraq can use CNN pictures of 
   city and smoke to target missles.
<Flynn> Analyst on NBC indicates that the airlift is bad.
<ISRAEL> Israeli reports are heavily censored.
<Flynn> (as far as meaning a long conflict)
<dodo1> please keep non-newsworthy conversation out of this 
   channel ... you can always /msg, you know !
<Leviathan> on ^leave * / comm
<BigCheese> scuds are late 1950's soviet technology
<ISRAEL> BigCheese: Wrong.
<Eyal> what is this classical ---- on the radio now?
<BigCheese> israel: reported by cnn specialist earlier
<Flynn> Israel -- that's why we're insterested in your 
   experiences; they aren't censored.  Bigcheese, remember 
   that the missles in use against israel are modified SCUDs.
<Eyal> Israel Radio: waiting for information from out the 
   country.
<Krome> ATV0H.  ++zpw+.  NO CARRIER
<ISRAEL> Stupid song on Israeli radio saying "there is 
   going to be rain soon"
<Steve> Again, CNN Confirms from pentagon, 3 missile 
   attacks from western iraq to Israel.
<Eyal> Isreal: what do you expect it is resher-b ;).  ok i 
   am going to talk to my dad in san diego now,, see you all 
   in abit.
<Jazco-ABC> states (ABC opinion only) few casualties.
<dodo1> CBS Palestinians celebrating Iraqi attack on Israel 
   in occupied areas
<Surge/+report> CBS:  Slightly injured only so far.
<beans> would israel attack on the sabbath?
<dodo1> CBS: Palestinians toasted Saddam Hussein in their 
   homes as they are under curfew
<ISRAEL> beans: of course.  if it will retaliate
<Ely> beans: if necessary, ofcourse.
<Dweezil> CNN: bush recieved phone breifing from scowcroft
<Steve> CNN:  No white house statement expected until 
   tomorrow.
<dodo1> CBS: Bush was awaken by Snowcroft ... he (Bush) was 
   at Camp David ... he immediately got on the telephone to 
   Shamir
<Dweezil> w/ gregl
<Leviathan> take care Ely, Eyal, AIX, ISRAEL.  stay safe.  
   I am praying for you.
<Surge/+report> CNN:  Experts in LA say Israel will ignore 
   Jordian flight restrictions if retaliation occurs.
<Steve_CNN> Military `expert' sez that Israel will probably 
   fly thru Jordanian airspace if they retaliate.
<EricBlade> Later, all. Good luck Ely, Eyal, AIX, and 
   ISRAEL.
<Flynn> Ely, Aix, Israel, any new news?
<ISRAEL> nothing yet fromme
<Flynn> NBC -- advisor reports that he thinks that this 
   will go on.  What can you tell us about what you saw, Aix, 
   or heard?
<Steve_CNN> Coallition should and will shift intelligence; 
   absolute priority will be track down remaining SCUD 
   launchers in Western Iraw.  Pentagon: Again confirms 
   launches on Israel, unknown missile types still.
<Flynn> NBC -- advisor indicates that he doesn't consider 
   the coalition as fragile as people say..
<beans> ABC is talking to a member of the jordonian 
   parliament  he says that jordan will take any intrusion of 
   their airspace as a sign of aggression from israel.
<Flynn> NBC -- going to former head of Israeli defense Gen. 
   Gazi? something like that?
<Steve_CNN> Now advisor is showing off on types of 
   launchers and missiles Saddam has.
<beans> ABC Jordan does not sympathize with israel
<ISRAEL> Flynn: donno "Gazi"
<Jazco-ABC> ABC is off the air here localy
<cosABC> Ted Koppel is asking the Jordanian some very tough 
   questions, he is having a hard time weaseling out ...
<danielle/+report> ABC: Jordanian blames all trouble on 
   Israel's occupation of west bank.
<Flynn> General Shlomo Gazit, former head of Israeli 
   Military Intelligence.
<ISRAEL> Aha.... Yes, Shlomo Gazit, possible
<Flynn> That's who NBC says it is.
<Steve_CNN> In Jerusalem, health minister, will not say fur 
   shur that israel will retaliate, but coallition isn't doing 
   its job.
<dodo1> 8:48 in Israel, 9:48 in Persialn Gulf
<Jazco-ABC> local ABC back on
<ISRAEL> Sat Jan 19 08:48:47 JST 1991
<Steve_CNN> Minister, again "Americans can not solve this, 
   We may have to."
<Flynn> He says that while the USA can take out SCUD 
   launchers better than Israel, Israel can "retaliate," 
   unlike the USA.  He says that Israel public opinion and 
   status with Arab world has to be what they consider...
<ISRAEL> I am going off to eat breakfest, be back soon
<beans> )=/join +war
<dodo1> CBS Radio: Baghdad claims 11 rockets fired
<Flynn> Gazit indicated mostly that Israel most take cre of 
   itself, and that America can't do everything for Israel.
<Steve_CNN> Health minister : Can you imagine anyone else 
   not retaliating?
<garyf> ABC - No comment from SA command.
<Flynn> Gazit indicated also that if there are no 
   casualties, Israel may be able to stand down a bit longer...
     NBC showing BBC footage of Tel Aviv, with smoke plume.  
   People in gas masks...  NBC reports that the number of 
   casualties is not known.
<Steve_CNN> Health minister:  Perhaps US should now stop 
   leaning on Israel not to react and start leaning on Arab 
   Allies to allow Israel to react.
<Flynn> (or if it is known, I have not heard the report)
<dodo1> BBC reported 4 on Tel Aviv, 7 on Jerusalem ... CBS 
   noiw denies hit on Jerusalem
<cosABC> ABC says 3 at Tel Aviv
<ISRAEL> Zero on Jerusalem.  back to breakfeast...
<cosABC> ABC showing video of damage in TA
<Nombrist/+report> Still no word on the hit in Haifa?
<Flynn> NBC reports a police car is going down the street.  
   [ :) ]
<dodo1> CBS indeed scud missiles
<Flynn> NBC White House Correspondent John Cochran reports 
   the if Israel does nothing, its her reliability will suffer.
   ..
<Steve_CNN> Recapping the morning in TelAviv.
<danielle> ABC is now showing pictures of hit location of 
   hit locations
<cosABC> ABC TA video over now.
<danielle> One appeared to be a stadium type room
<BBC> recapping economic stuff from this am.
<Steve_CNN> CNN: Visible damage to TelAviv, partially 
   demolished buildings, broken windows, and few people 
   walking around.  But they are carrying gas masks in their 
   hands.
<dodo1> CNN: indeed scud missiles ... confirmed minor 
   casualties in Tel Aviv .. hits on Jerusalem UNTRUE
<Ely> Radio: dont touch missiles parts..
<Chronos>  How was Israel hit ... destinations hit ...  
   times .... Can't seem to tune in ...
<BBC> t
<dodo1> CNN: Cyprus calls for terrorist attacks on allies
<cosABC> ABC network reports off, back to regular schedules 
   everywhere.
<Ryman/+report> cosABC: Until 2:30 am (EST) when nightline 
   comes on
<Steve_CNN> Clarification of dodo1's Cyprus report:  Not 
   actually from CNN, not sure where it's from...
<garyf> CBS - Says there ARE casulaties.
<dodo1> add on to steve_cnn : it was from CNN headline news,
    quoting cyprus radio
<Steve_CNN> Discussing possibility of ground assault for 
   retaliation, i.e. commando attack.  Showing TelAviv 
   pictures..
<Flynn> NBC is sowing BBC report from Michael MacMillan.
<garyf> CBS - At least some people injured, no news of dead.
     11pm here (23:00 PST) and the channels are recapping.
<BBC-APR> BBC: DC- "biggest search and destroy ever" 
   todestroy iraqi missile batts..
<Steve_CNN> Pictures only of people in sealed rooms wearing 
   gas masks.
<dodo1> CNN: Algeria and India were trying sometime back to 
   promote "pause for peace" to let Iraq rethink it's hard 
   line.  Israeli official told CNN: retaliation is certain 
   (didn't identify official)
<BBC-APR> BBC: egypt ambass re-affirms egypt's dedication 
   to coalition...even if an isreali retaliation...
<Flynn> NBC reports "very light casualties".  Also that the 
   missles were conventional.
<dodo1> "i think it is the final responsibility of israel 
   to protect its citizens"
<garyf> Los Angeles is now all local news - Reaction from 
   Jewish comunity is `` shock ''.
<Ryman/+report> Eastern is closing down.  Last flights were 
   midnight
<Flynn> Pretty unpleasant-looking pictures from yesterday's 
   attack on NBC
<BBC-APR> BBC: Daharan- "looks as if most iraqi airfields" 
   are knocked out...
<Steve_CNN> Played back sirens and explosions.  Jeez, that 
   musta been scary.
<bhaskar/+report> DON't TALK FOOLISHLY
<dodo1> CNN radio repeating theatre commander's press 
   conference earlier today
<BBC-APR> BBC: more reservists are being called up....gorby 
   has come up with a new peace initiative...
<Flynn> (That was the _first_ missle attack that NBC just 
   showed pictures of).  Ehud Olmert on NBC now...
<dodo1> 9:07 in Israel ; 10:07 in Gulf.  (morning)
<BBC-APR> BBC: US state dept - recd a terrorist threat in 
   Thailand....
<Flynn> Aix, Eyal, Ely, Israel -- good luck, take care.  
   Hope to hear from you later.
<ISRAEL> I'm back.  Please update!
<BBC-APR> BBC: recap on eastern airlines bankrupcy story...
<Steve_CNN> Just showing pictures of TelAviv outside -- 
   semi-demolished buildings, fires, emergency crews picking 
   up pieces of missiles.  Pretty ugly.  At least the 
   casualties are low.
<dodo1> CNN: quoting Pentagon Saddam Hussein still in 
   charge inspite of direct attack on air headquarters in 
   Baghdad
<Python> Anyone have a casuality figure?
<Steve_CNN> "Low Casualties"  Unfortunately, I doubt if it 
   is as low as yesterday's "7 or 8" but noone is giving 
   numbers as of yet.
<Surge/+report> Only casualties reported (CNN) 6 injured 
   none dead so far.
<dodo1> add on to Steve_CNN: CNN reporting "7 or 8" ... but 
   they keep saying "there really were casualties this time" ..
   . yesterday's were 12 (correct ?)  ... please don't ask us 
   to explain further !
<Ely> Il-Radio: collecting info..soon official report.
<dodo1> Patriotic and military music to be boomed from 
   belfry in downtown Pittsburgh for some hours (9 to 12 ?) 
   every weekday ... local Radio
<danielle> ABC: is now showing BBC footage
<dodo1> 9:15 in the morning now in Israel; 10:15 in Gulf
<danielle> abc: threee missiles in same area, all 
   conventional
<ISRAEL> dodo: PLEASE STOP WITH THIS TIMING, you are making 
   us nervous, and it is totally unneccesary.  Israeli radio 
   continues with those stupid songs.
<Ely> right back
<danielle> abc: BBC said that we wouldn't know about 
   isreali repraisals until after the fact
<dodo1> israel: my apologies, since you are in Israel ... 
   but many people have REQUESTED me to keep up the timing for 
   the purpose of IRC records ... many people are logging this 
   IRC channel
<Steve_CNN> Mayor of Tel Aviv:  2 missiles actually hit Tel 
   Aviv, only 3 casualties, Thank God.
<danielle> abc: Expert said that most damage is from 
   explosion of remain fuel in missile and damage of that much 
   metal hitting a single location
<ISRAEL> Casulaties: 10 lightly wounded That's official. 
    Casualties:  Killed, NONE.  Sat Jan 19 09:21:29 JST 1991.
     Jerusalem Standard Time.  OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM ISRAELI 
   AUTHORITIES:  10 LIGHTLY WOUNDED.  OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM 
   ISRAELI AUTHORITIES:  NONE KILLED.  OFFICIAL MESSAGE 
   FROM ISRAELI AUTHORITIES:  THE DAMAGES ARE IN THE DAN 
   AREA (Tel-Aviv and the area)
<dodo1> wallop from leng quoting NBC: expert says Scuds can 
   be used 5 times each
<Ely> Ok, marx reported..
<Steve_CNN> Zubin Mehta and the TelAviv Mayor just reported 
   that the missile miraculously landed in a clearing between 
   4 buildings in a heavily congested area of TelAviv.  
   Windows broke, water mains, and walls even partially 
   collapsed, but thank God at that site...  (cont) There were 
   only 3 casualties.  The other 7 must have been at the site 
   of the other missile.
<ISRAEL> CNN: 10 lightly WOUNDED, THAT'S ALL.
<Ely> 3 missiles.  10 light injures.  abt the missile 
   number i'm not sure.
<Jazco-NBC> NBC agreeing israel reports
<ISRAEL> thank you NBC
<Steve_CNN> The footage just shown was chilling.  There is 
   a clearing in a heavily congested, poor area.  There is a 
   Crater in the middle.  The buildings around this crater are 
   almost intact.
<ISRAEL> NBC is for the last few days VERY -UNreliable-
<danielle> NBC is now talking about jerico missiles
<ISRAEL> NBC is wrong again.
<danielle> NBC is saying they are fairly accurate and have 
   range to hit anywhere in Iraq
<ISRAEL> Danielle: NBC said yesterday that Israeli TV went 
   off air because of a terror attack on its studios.
<dodo1> let us please keep personal comments , opinions, 
   etc. out of this channel .... let us report only what we 
   know/have heard from sources ... please also report sources
<ISRAEL> Danielle: so long for accuracy...
<Jazco-NBC> I just changed to NBC ,,,ABC has gone to 
   regular programming
<Ely> ok..i'm off meanwhile.
<Steve_CNN> CNN is still claiming only the 3 casualties, 
   but I'll go with the Israeli report.
<ISRAEL> CNN is ussualy accurate, Possibly 3 casualties, 
   but only because CNN said so.
<dodo1> no comments, please ?
<danielle> NBC:reporting from baghdad, no oil refining , no 
   running water, no eletricity and they are using blanket 
   fire to hope to hit something
<Steve_CNN> As I said, CNN Reported 3 casualties.  This was 
   out of the mouth of the Mayor of TelAviv at the site where 
   one of the missiles hit.
<danielle> NBC: They believe that there are 1 or 2 captured 
   pilots
<ISRAEL> CNN: did u actually SEE the mayor saying that?
<Steve_CNN> Yes, I saw a video (about a half hour old) of 
   the Mayor and Zubin Mehta standing at the site where the 
   missile landed.  He said, "Thank god, only 3 minor 
   casualties."
<garyf> Israeli council in Los Angeles - 4 missiles hit 
   Israel. 10 wounded, light injuries. (This is from his 
   contacts in Israel.) -- NO missles hit Jer.
<Chronos> News olny please ... opinions should be voiced 
   via '/msg <path>' ...
<ISRAEL> ah, when u mean minor casualties u mean wounded?  
   grayf: i confirm.  *** Official: all missiles are 
   conventional
<cosABC> ABC back on
<Steve_CNN> Again, I am only repeating exactly what he said.
     They didn't have time for clarifications.  "only 3 minor 
   casualties"
<dodo1> 9:30 a.m. in Israel; 10:30 a.m. in the Gulf
<ISRAEL> OFFICIAL BY MILITARY SPOKESMAN: 3 missiles were 
   shot, scuds.
<dodo1> [as a compromise between ISRAEL's objections and 
   five or six requests, I shall try to report Israeli and 
   Gulf time once every 15 minutes]
<cosABC> ABC showing video of damage again
<ISRAEL> OFFICIAL BY MILITARY SPOKESMAN: Spokesman said 
   that missiles hit Dan area (tel-aviv) and Sharon area 
   (netanya)
<garyf> `` Our country has not attacked Iraq, this is 
   completely unprovoked. Our nation has kept a low profile, 
   we have stayed out of the conflict, yet Iraq persists in 
   attacking Israel. ''
<Dani_NBC> NBC doing call from Iraq, specifically Tom 
   Aspell in Baghadad
<ISRAEL> OFFICIAL BY MILITARY SPOKESMAN: 10 lightly 
   wounded.
<garyf> -- Israeli Console in Los Angeles.
<ISRAEL> garyf: Ran Peker
<Dani_NBC> Telecommunications towers, defence ministry and 
   airport destroyed in  Baghdad
<garyf> Ran Ronan, Israel.
<ISRAEL> Raanana for those who want to know is included in 
   the area of the Dan and Sharon areas.  if anyone wants to 
   know what cities/towns are included in those areas, say 
   specific places.
<dodo1> CBS: Dick Chaney dec;lares air emergency ... 
   civilian planes to be commissioned to airlift resources.  
   pardon: air emergency=airlift emergency
<Chronos> How many exactly hit Israel during morning hours .
   . (missles) ... where ? ...
<Steve_CNN> CNN Confirms 10 injuries and a "number" of 
   missiles, pentagon says 3.
<ISRAEL> 3 missiles hit Israel, tel-aviv area.
<dodo1> CBS: Iraq claims it has shot down 94 allied planes
<ISRAEL> 3 missiles have been confirmed by Israeli Military 
   Spokesman - Nachman Shai.  OFFICIAL NUMBERS: 16 lightly 
   wounded, mostly because of shock waves.
<dodo1> CNN confirms Iraqi claim of 94 allied losses
<cosABC> ABC says one of the earlier air raid warnings 
   (yesterday) was due to a missile which overshot and landed 
   in the sea.
<Python> dodo1, can you be more specific?  who confirmed?  
   CNN is saying nothing at the moment
<ISRAEL> brb
<dodo1> clarification: CNN DID BNOT SAY THERE WERE 94 
   ALLIED LOSSES ... they confirmed that IRAQ HAS MADE THE 
   CLAIM OVER BAGHDAD RADIO
<Dani_NBC> showing scenes of the scud missile hits on NBC
<Jazco-ABC> ABC showing scenes too.  from yesterday
<cosABC> Does anyone have access to NPR?
<ISRAEL> ALF on TV, i am gone...  i'll be back on further 
   developments
<Dani_NBC> <---- is heading to bed, someone need to take 
   over reporting NBC
<dodo1> CNN washington: Transportation authorities are 
   taking a number of steps against terrorist activities ... 
   details not revealed for security reasons
<cos> NBC: one of the 3 missiles is unexploded, area being 
   evacuated.
<Chronos> is it assumed that isreal will retaileate or will 
   not?
<Steve_CNN> CNN TV is reporting garbage for now...
<dodo1> time 9:45 a.m. in Israel ; 10:45 a.m. in the Gulf
<Jazco-ABC> ABC: prince hassan in amman, stateing to the 
   affect that no aircraft will pass over there air space.
<Chronos> How do you think an attack by Isrel will effect 
   our standing in the war
<garyf> CNN TV doing interview with Israeli advisor, upset 
   about the Israeli people having to suffer from the mad man 
   in Baghdad.
<Steve_CNN> Pazner is the Advisor, and he says that he is 
   certain that the coallition will hold together if Israel 
   does retaliate.  Everyone knows that they were provoked and 
   attacked first.
<Ger_NBC> Taking over NBC.
<Jazco-ABC> ABC: hassan, wants to remain netural. and they 
   want everyone to respect that
<Chronos> E.  Even the Arab nations will still stay in the 
   coalliation
<Jazco-ABC> ABC: hassan respect his air space and leave him 
   alone, "My country should not pay the price for your war"
<cos> goodnight.  ABC already has someone else monitoring.
<Chronos> hi tyhis is
<Steve_CNN> Pazner sez:  Israel has no plans on "joining 
   the crisis" -- they will decide when, where, and how to 
   respond to the unprovoked criminal attacks against them.
<Ger_NBC> NBC: american gvt funding US civilians' tix out 
   of S. Arabia.  NBC: 4 american pilots listed as MIA.
<Liron> Israel  radio says israel must react now.
<Steve_CNN> Can someone cover CNN TV?  I need a break...
<Liron> 'we can no longer wait'
<Ger_NBC> NBC: NY times: US gvt and allied military 
   dropping pamphlets behind enemy lines, supplying radios...
   trying to keep propaganda rush up.
<dodo1> CNN: Cyprus calls on moslems all over the world to 
   take up the war against allies
<Steve_CNN> I'm outahere.  Need some sleep.  Keep the faith,
    people.
<Python> I'll cover CNN for now if no one else is already
<Ger_NBC> carrying speculation crap for now.
<dodo1> i'm covering CNN radio, among other sources ... but 
   not CNN tv
<Ger_NBC> Jordan might be leaning in direction of S. 
   Hussein.
<CNN> shaw/holliman reporting from jordan shoing new tape 
   of baghdad
<Ger_NBC> Possibly one unexploded missle in "heart of Tel 
   Aviv."
<Jazco-ABC> ABC: a few moments ago had interview with 
   jordan and he was remaining neutral.  ABC: but wanted both 
   countries to respect his air space.  ABC: haveing and 
   interview in Tel Aviv
<Ger_NBC> Local news on NBC...One relevant story: Beefed up 
   border security between Canada and US.  back to nationals.
<garyf> Local news on NBC - Rumors of U.S. Mexican crossing 
   near San Diego closing are false, but security is beefed up,
    and car searches are normal.
<Ger_NBC> Pictures of attack tonight on NBC.
<dodo1> time 10:00 a.m. in Israel; 11:00 a.m. in the Gulf
<Ger_NBC> Seeing missiles hit.
<garyf> Anyone covering CBS TV?
<asparagi> Iraq says they were sub -> ground  missles and 
   that all hit their targets.
<Cor_CBS> sort of
<Ger_NBC> Incredible cloud of smoke....sirens....Rumors: 
   ONE of missiles may not have exploded.
<Jazco-ABC> discussing scud launches
<Ger_NBC> damage report: 12 wounded, NO casualties.
<CNN_TV> live to jer. bureau
<dodo1> CNN Radio recapping stuff already reported on IRC ..
   . nothing new
<Ger_NBC> describes SCUDs as simple as a "Pipe bomb"
<CNN_TV> 7:15am is. time  missiles fired from w. iraq hit 
   (review of interviews w/ mayor, etc.)
<Liron> Israel Will not give the location of the hits.
<Ger_NBC> discussing adaptation of SCUDS for a chemical-
   type of weapon.
<Jazco_ABC> Us first detected the 3 Scuds. discussing the 
   mobile launchers. now interviewing in saudi A.
<Ger_NBC> going to israeli consulate general in LA.  Israel 
   "keeps its rights to make it's own decisions...doesn't seek 
   war, wants conflict solved by peace sol'n...decision 
   whether or not to retaliate will be reached shortly".  
   "taking info and data into serious consideration"
<ISRAEL> ok, i am taking over.
<Ger_NBC> "a madman....decided to attack a country 
   unprovoked"
<dodo1> CNN: Egypt and Syria (repeat SYRIA) have indicated 
   they will NOT object to Israeli retaliation
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: is taking a break....
<Ger_NBC> "our best ally requested us to show patience, we 
   agreed to cooperate with US...but rightnow, this may be a 
   new ballgame"
<ISRAEL> Israeli TV showed a school yard in which a crater 
   was created because of the SCUD
<dodo1> CNN Radio : Commercial airlines will have to 
   provide upto 181 aircraft for support services in the war
<Ger_NBC> "we know the sensitivities, and are strong and 
   well equipped.  We have the means to protect our country 
   and our citizens".  (above from NBC was from consulate 
   general from Israel)
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: talking about SCUDs referencing to iraq 
   israel locations
<Ger_NBC> Need NBC coverage...phone line undedicated....
   anyone?  going to Tel-Aviv
<CNN_TV> pictures of planes in SA (stealth!).  I think 
   they're the 1st pictures of the kind
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: talking about a missle called the al-abas 
   a missle not really known to the US but is much larger than 
   the SCUD and can carry a larger load.  Are not accurate.....
<dodo1> time 10:15 a.m in Israel; 11:15 a.m in the Gulf
<grund> test
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: just speculating on current events and 
   possible iraqi arsenial.
<dodo1> CBS Radio: Dow Jones gained 145 points.  CBS Radio: 
   Oil prices down (missed the figures)
<CNN_TV> F15 Eagle fighter pilots (2) age 35 and 37 
   reported missing.  2 others as well.  Names released by 
   Pentagon
<Jazco_ABC> please realease names
<dodo1> CBS Radio 15 injured
<CNN_TV> He read them too fast
<Michel> Israel spokesman just said Israel will retaliate 
   [French Radio]\
<dodo1> CBS radio: 15 injured in missile attack
<Michel> French radio: Iraq has still many planes left
<dodo1> CBS Radio: ONE MISSILE HIT JORDAN ... some damage, 
   some wounded .... including some people of Iraqi origin
<crds> Information re: ABBAS missile (Scientific American 
   Aug 1990):  Estimated flight distance 550 miles.
<Michel> B52 bombing the Iraqi republican guard.  Ground 
   warfare not expected to begin b4 February
<dodo1> please report your source(s)
<Michel> Avi Pazner -- Israeli spokesman -- : israel will 
   retaliate.  12 people lightly wounded in last bombings.  
   REPORT: FRENCH RADIO
<Liron> 90% of the Irqa Air f. is down.
<Michel> Liron: not true, apparently
<Liron> Michel: Info .. israeli's T.V now.
<Jazco_ABC> if your can see ABC turn and watch
<Michel> Israel will retaliate, says Avi Pazner.  We won't 
   let Sadam Hussain terrorize us.  We'll decide how, when and 
   where, adds Pazner (spokesman of Prime Minister Shamir)
<Liron> Israel is cutting all reporters that try to report 
   about the hits.
<crds> Info re: Other Iraqi missiles under development 
   (Scientific American Aug 1990): "...Tammuz, with a range of 
   1250 miles, the three stage Abid, which was successfully 
   tested in Dec. of 1989... tactacal anti-ballistic missile 
   system called the Faw." (end of i
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: showing awhsome footage.  ABC: it is over 
   back to interviews
<crds> (end of info)
<Michel> The 3 missiles hit a gymnasium and an industrial 
   building in T.A.  12 slightly injured
<dodo1> clarification: earlier report of hit on Jordan was 
   probably an accidental Iraqi hit ... not an Israeli 
   retaliation
<Michel> Iraqi radio had announced lauching 11 missiles, 
   while 3 hit Israel.
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: was, WAS showing footage of the first and 
   second attacts on bagdad this footage is/was awhsome
<CNN_TV> dodo1, who says?
<dodo1> CBS radio source for that jordanian casualty ... i 
   reported the source earlier.  time 10:30 a.m. in Israel; 11:
   30 a.m. in the Gulf
<Jazco_ABC> The footage showed the antiaircraft guns, 
   direct american hits on those guns, and people running in 
   the streets to bomb shelters,  The american bombing 
   wasn't/did not appear to be in the residentual areas just 
   the communications towers which were alsoshown.  ABC: is 
   going to commericals
<FrnchRadi> Israel ambassador to France: Israel must 
   retaliate now.  MOre than 1000 sorties of allied airplanes 
   this past night on Irak.
<CNN_TV> cnn reporting on domestic protests.  (in US)
<dodo1> CNN: some Americans stranded in Saudi Arabia 
   (Eastern Provinces) due to cancellation of flights but 
   evacuation flights being arranged by US military 
   authorities ... not free ... will have to pay 150% of 
   normal fares
<FrnchRadi> About protests: 75000 people rally in Germany, 
   mostly Turkish and muslims.  Other "pacifist" 
   demonstrations in France and Germany -- the pacifists 
   ransacked stores
<dodo1> CNN Radio: Syria will not object to Israeli 
   retaliation as long as they do not use Syrian airspace
<Jazco_ABC> eailer on ABC they were interviewing Prince H. 
   in Jordan and he said nothing about and bombs falling in 
   jordan. and this interview was after the attack.  
   eailer======> about an hour or two ago.
<FrnchRadi> Jordanian parliament called for Arabs to attack 
   American interests all over the world.          CAPE 
   CANAVERAL, Fla. (UPI) -- A radar spy satellite capable of 
   seeing.  through cloud cover and penetrating the top few 
   feet of the Iraqi desert.  may be the best bet for locating 
   hidden Scud missile launchers that.  threaten Israel and 
   Saudi Arabia, a spathreaten Israel and Saudi Arabia, a 
   space expert said Friday.          But William Burrows, 
   author of ``Deep Black: Space Espionage and.  National 
   Security,'' said only one such ``LaCrosse'' satellite is 
   known.  to be in orbit and it only passes over the Middle 
   East every few days.  How long it might take U.S. forces to 
   finally eliminate Saddam Hussein's.  stock of Soviet Scud 
   missiles is not known.          ``Radar is their only bet 
   if there's cloud cover,'' he said. ``The.  problem is, 
   they've got one satellite and it comes over every couple of.
     days.''.          The missiles may be hidden in 
   camouflaged trenches, or ditches, in.  the Iraqi desert. 
   But radar beams from LaCrosse can be used to penetrate.  
   the top few feet of the desert to pinpoint such targets.
<entropy/+report> 30 people arrested in peace demonstration 
   in Hartford, CT.  Source: TIC-FM in Hartford
<CNN_TV> israeli spokeswoman giving statement live on 
   latest attack
<FrnchRadi>         JERUSALEM (UPI) -- Residents of the 
   Israeli-occupied West Bank and.  Gaza Strip are not being 
   alerted to possible air raids and poison gas.  attacks, 
   including Friday's missile strike from Iraq, because no 
   public.  address system is in place, the army said.         
    ``Gaza and the West Bank have never been a target in any 
   of our wars,.  and therefore (an emergency system) has not 
   been constructed,'' he said.          The spokesman said 
   the state radio serves as warning for people in.  the 
   territories.          WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The 
   disintegrating space junk that rattled nerves.  in Israel 
   Friday may have been from the launch of a Soviet robot 
   craft.  launched earlier in the week, an expert said.       
      LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- The first two days of Operation 
   Desert Storm.  could cost as much as $1 billion, largely 
   because of the high price of.  the ammunition being used 
   against Iraqi forces, a defense analysis group.  said 
   Friday.          ``The total for the first 48 hours could 
   be as high as $1 billion,.  assuming that you include the 
   replacement costs of everything,'' said.  Alexis Cane, 
   research director for the Defense Budget Project, a private.
     group in Washington, D.C., that analyzesgroup in 
   Washington, D.C., that analyzes defense spending.  
   Journalists in Iraq say they are allowed to report only 
   under the presence of Iraq officers.          Physical 
   effects of wartime stress should boost soldier performance,.
     but steps need to be taken to guard against burnout, a 
   mind-body expert.  said Friday.
<dodo1> time 10:45 a.m. in Israel; 11:45 a.m. in the Gulf
<Liron> Israelis were  asked not to touch part of mis. and 
   FULL mis.....
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: pool reports... Americans 4 marines wonded 
   1 seriously near boarder , first ground confrintation'.  
   ABC: thats was not an attack by ground forces.  ABC: that 
   was our ground forces being hit by iraqi artillary.  ABC: 
   estimated 40 iraqians troops killed during confrintation...
   These are pool reports with the Marines.
<FrnchRadi> Dr Dan Michelis (director of Tel Hashomer Hosp. 
   in Tel Aviv): 12 lightly wounded people admitted thus far.  
   Maybe later cardiac cases expected.  Wounded people -- 
   superficial wounds, noone will undergo surgery.
<CNN_TV> Someone else please monitor CNN, I'm goiung to to 
   try to get a little sleep... bye.
<Jazco_ABC> mode +report +o israel
<CNN_TV> cnn corresps in baghdad is reporting iraq ministry 
   of info ORDERING ALL VISITING JOURNALISTS OUT!
<ISRAEL> tnx
<Jazco_ABC> welcome
<dodo1> CNN Radio: gas marks selling like hot cakes in 
   Israel ... boosting in price too ...
<Jazco_ABC> kelly: troops, soldiers, non civilian personel
<ISRAEL> **** The Missiles attack of this morning was on 
   Ramat Gan, Zubin Mehta said that the missiles fell on a 
   town with a large precentage of people speaking with the 
   same accent as Saddam Hussein, meaning the town of Ramat 
   Gan next to Tel-Aviv, which has alot o.  which has alot of 
   Iraqi jews.
<dodo1> CNN Radio : EARLIER REPORT of Jordanian damage now 
   ruled out as a rumor
<CNN_TV> someone please monitor CNN, I'm out of here...
<ISRAEL> CNN's Bernard Shaw is now in Jordan, i assume u 
   know that by now.
<Jazco_ABC> ABC: back to regular programming
<Liron> False alarm In bee'er sheva.
<dodo1> time 11:00 a.m. in Israel; 12:00 noon in the Gulf
<FrnchRadi> French television disclosed this week.  that 
   Paris' Jewish community has formed a ``militia'' made up of.
     vigilantes to defend itself against neo-fascist or Arab 
   militants.
<Cor33/+report> all older folks welcome in +oldies!
<ssa> Any updates since 02h00 EST?
<ISRAEL> Israeli News Flash now.
<dodo1> war news only on this channel please
<ISRAEL> Again, 10 wounded lightly.  Field Reporter does 
   not reveal his location, the main missile had hit a...
   bombing shelter...  Tel-Aviv mayor thanks god that there 
   are no casualties. the wounded are from shock.  Tel-Aviv 
   mayor named Shlomo Lahat ("Chich")
<FrnchRadi> B52s took part in bombing Baghdad
<ISRAEL> about 100 apartments nearby damaged.  (in Tel-Aviv)
<FrnchRadi> Gas prices down on Stock Exchange
<dodo1> wallops from Mulderg: Pentagon reports Iraq 
   airforce maybe still largely intact ; NPR: Peace proposal 
   by India in U.N., proposes immediate cease-fire; India 
   wants 72 hour peace
<FrnchRadi> I mean oil prices
<dodo1> wallops from Mulderg ---> source, NPR
<Israel_TV> the missiles that were shot on Israel are SCUD 
   missiles models "Al-Hussein" and "Abbas"
<dodo1> no new news folks ... will report the moment there 
   is something new
<crds> Spelling correction, would be Missile model "Husayn"
<Israel_TV> Hussein, Husayn, it is in arabic, you can spell 
   it however you wish.
<crds> The Husayn is a modified Scud B with a range of 375 
   miles (Sci Am Aug 1990)
<dodo1> time in Israel 11:15 a.m ; 12:15 p.m. in Gulf.  Dow 
   Jones gained 145 points ... closed at 2646.  CBS Radio: 
   possible iraqi terrorist attacks in US .... search for 
   overstaying Iraqis in Pittsburgh (local Radio) .... 
   national 400+something airports on highest alert.  CBS 
   Radio : 17 total injuries in Israel, 6 discharged
<Eristetty/+report> Sigh, looks like a rumor in the first 
   place, on top of that it's CBS. :)
<dodo1> CBS Radio, BBC correspondent: all journalists in 
   Baghdad asked to leave ... asked to leave their equipment 
   there ... because "conditions are not right here" .... 
   because there is "no water, etc. ".  BBC correspondent made 
   only allowed phone call.  BBC cporrespondent said they 
   (Iraqis) said "it was absolutely untrue" that they were 
   being asked to leave for the content of their broadcasts
<Israel_TV> this "no water" excuse is quite neat...
<dodo1> BBC correspondent continued: they said they were 
   "being asked to leave only for some time" ... the 
   correspondent asked that the message be broadcast to all 
   news organizations involved.  erisetty: no, the injury list 
   was an interview of an israeli official (couldn't catch who)
<Eristetty/+report> I was referring to the report on 
   Terrorism as RUMORISH/BULLSHIT/CBS MATERIAL.
<Liron> later.
<dodo1> no flames here, but just for the public record: all 
   airports in the country put on highest alert
<mulderg> NPR repeat:  India has offered peace plan at U.N.,
    72 hour cease-fire
<garyf> Anyone covering CNN TV this morning?
<dodo1> mulderg: any news on objection to India's plan ?  
   the objection that Saddam may have time to regroup ?
<Israel_TV> it seems that most networks are fed by CNN 
   anyhow
<mulderg> No further news on NPR at this time
<Israel_TV> anyone sees C-Span? i saw a TV program of them 
   last night, seems lousy.
<dodo1> CNN from Baghdad: news people packing their bags
<crds> From ka8lvz.ampr.org!jwl  Wed Jan 16 23:43:36 1991 
   remote from n8emr.  Date: Thu, 17 Jan 91 22:26:29 EST.  
   Message-Id: <2961@ka8lvz.ampr.org>.  From: jwl@ka8lvz.ampr.
   org (John Lydic (ka8lvz)).  To: cmh-7300@n8emr.  Subject: 
   Saudi Radio.     FYI for all of you ham's &/or swl's, here 
   is a Persian Gulf frequency.     list from the latest "73 
   Amateur Radio Today - February 1990".  These.     are the 
   frequencies reported by numerous sources in Khz USB.  Enjoy.
        US Air Force Global Command and Control Frequencies 
   (GCCS):        Loring AFB, ME:    3074, 6738, 8964, 11179, 
   13214.        MacDill AFB, FL:   4746, 6750, 8993, 11246, 
   11288, 13244, 18019.        Ascension Island:  6750, 8993, 
   11176, 13244, 15015.        Croydon, UK:       3067, 5703, 
   6750, 9011, 11176, 13214.        Incirlik, Turkey:  3137, 
   6738, 11176, 13214, 15015, 23227.     Saudi Air Force in 
   general on: 3095, 5526, 8967, 8990.        Dharan Air Base: 
   9130, 11100 using callsign "Hotel 1".        Riyadh Air 
   Base: 7300, 12112 using callsign "Hotel 2".        US Army 
   Corp of Engineers: 9130, 11425 using callsigns "Castle 1".  
                                                    thru 
   "Castle 8".        Another active frequency in the area is 
   11300.     The US Forces are using the following frequency 
   assignments.        Primary:    6632, 9006, 11233, 13231, 
   13257.        Secondary:  4704, 5690, 6204, 6810, 6905.     
   Middle East Air Traffic Controllers in the area on the 
   following:        2992, 3404, 5603, 5658, 5667, 8847, 8918, 
   10018, 13288, 13312, 13336.     US Navy has challenged 
   commercial vessels on the following frequencies:        
   4125, 1413*, 4419, 6218, 6519, 6521, 8291, 8294, 12492, 
   12435, 16587.        16590, 16593, 22105, 22124, 22127, 
   22130, 22136.        * Editors note: I think this is a 
   misprint and might be 4413.     In addition, check out the 
   HICOMM channels on 7525, 12215, 23315
IRC Log ended *** Sat Jan 19 10:33