CNN had two reporteres in norfolk. QuazeABC: Possibly a fake ... I don't quite believe that every one missile site has been destroyed. yle-fin: me neither, but they only said the "known" sites... Wallops from banshee: robert, comment? Local news says security is very tight at Offutt (SAC HQ) CBS reports Baghdad raids continue. n no more weather reports from Mid east. Saddam talks on radio-bagdag for security reasons, we're no longer getting weather reports form SA Ely: Where did you get that info? radio bagdhad is no trying to broadcast. Saddam is speaking ely: specifics. saying what? CBS: Israeli radio I cannot understand arabic well, and so have no idea what he is saying... QABC: no info yet. ely: mostly 'breast-beating' then? CBS finally reports on Saddam talking. ABC still nothing. we're on local news here... NBC as well. They don't yet KNOW if it's Saddam. quaze: ch 15/23 I'm switching to NBC Saddm said: War has started. Ammericans will be taught a lesson. QABC: well, it seems that he is not surrending. kinda relegiuos speaks (rough translation) BRB -=- Q-ABC add me when I get back, CBS is talking about an imitation of Saddam who might be the one talking. might be Turkey says: you can use turkish bases to attack iraq to US abc news back (sorta) shaw is smelling something in baghdad.. ;) CBS Off to local news. Local ABC talking about return of SAC desert band. Someting happened in Nablus (Skhem). Not sure what. (it's hard listening to 2 or 3 things at once, and following IRC...) the log file is on cs.bu.edu and xanth.odu.edu ABC will be back with Nightline from Aman Jordan lost: thanx ABC is back. xanth.cs.odu.edu you mean. Nati Tell me about it. Thanks Q-ABC abc still stalling until nightline... What's CNN up to? YLE stopped their news coverage, I'll be back in business when TV3 starts their program at 6:30 EET. Morning paper should have arived, if it's out today. But it contains nothing about the war, since it's closed at 1 am (an hout before the war) 3 shots to American council in jerusalem this morning I am only posting the file to cs.bu.edu and xanth.cs.odu.edu. You can get the files at those two cites. Light over Haifa now. Guess this is the time for a missile, if at all. nati: WHY when it is light an not when it is dark? Saddam call all arab citizens to start jihad. ("the greatest war") <=== back shortly to local news. The TV said that we may except an atack after sunrise, sine there is a full blackout in Iraq, and they may nonly get to the missile and launch it at morning CBS has shortwave operator reporting Baghdad damage was "minimal and very strategic" Nati: Iraki air-power, if left any, will be used only on day-light. PBS is saying "decimated" Iraqi airforce... opinion from.... <==== Nightline starting I will go out and get the late paper when it somes out, but there will probably be very few news things there, since it's done by 4 or 5 am. ABC translates saddam " The Mother of all Battles has been started". "Us has achieved a pretty good level of tactical surprise" (Thanks to all for the good luck whishings. Ely deserves them too. Hope I won't need 'em) 100 tomohawk missiles launched at a time.. we've hit, suppressed, or destroyed most of iraqs early warning air system. "Baghdad radio says Iraq will never surrender" CBS: Oil prices originally soared, but then fell back. Dan Rather said not sure exactly where it's at now. +4 cents locally... in va beach. is there /who chanop command. :) Iraqi's are shelling the town of Khafji, 8 miles from the Kuwait border. Fire shifted from the Refinery to the town. ABC: planes did NOT come from turkey.. abc reports that as many as 1000 planes were involved on our side tonight! MULTI-national force... Saudi-Arabia, Kuwait = 150.. . Us and United Kingdom. Were any tomhawk fired ? "several hundred at a time" from ships unconfirmed on that, nati yeah nati lots of tomahawks. 1/5th our arsenal they said? aimed at air forces... on the ground. 1.1 million barrels of oil of national strategic reserve to be put on the market per day (a tomahawk is a cruise missile) yes, but (technically, as far as I know) the launches are unconfirmed... abc: re-claims/affirms that all 4 devisions of the military were used. Saddam: There was a big duce. bla bla bla report from the station that I am listening to. (Huntsville AL) that Israel states that the scuds destroyed by U.S. were targeted on Israel No scuds were fired at Israel. If they were, there would have been an alarm horn here University of Alabama in Huntsville, (adjacent to Redstone Arsenal) there was a rumor that 5 were fired... or 3.. and that the fell short/ blew up in the air. :-P Scott: 5 SCUDs were fired The time needed to arm a surviving scud missile and launch it after the first attack elapsed almost two hours ago the rumor was confirmed by bahrain civil defense minister. Baghdad radio is back on the air.... it has called for Arab uprising.... Tornados were involved (british), no losses (SDR3, FRG) the 5 that were fired were, as I herd, aimd at Saudi, and landed in a desert in Baharain (the oposite direction from Israel) nati: yes, that is true... Baghdad radio is being heavily jammed.... still only sketchy reports on casualties. nati: that confirms what we've heard too CBS says bullets were fired at American Consulate. Heard that here about 15 mins ago. 45 minutes to set up/arm 4-7 minutes air time... to jeru.. Today in Hutsville Redstone Arsenal drastically increased security. scott: and 2 hours to find some parking :-) lsg News report says that Iraqi's are shelling refinery in Saudi (ABC correspondant) scuds = 500 mile range and mach 5... Cbs believes the Saddam broadcast is authentic, not an impostor. I am on via alabama Supercomputer network and MIT 22/msg nati WHO Saddam calls Bush "A hippocritical criminal" needs to star: confirms what CNN and shortwave said. Mig-29 comparable to f-15? Reporter says that two storage tanks at the refinery have been hit and are burning, (8 miles south of kuwaitt border). Scott negative Soviet vs. US Plane, Scott. F15 probably has greater capabilities. Cameras have been placed in the noses of some F-15s, should be some interesting footage... Pilot who made the Libyan photo's ran missions this morning w/ camera onboard. (I will have to d/c in 15 minutes since rates are going back to prime-time, which is too steep for me) reporter says that about half of the shelling has been shifted to the city in Saudi where refinery is. reporter is CBS news reporter David Green on radio star: any serious damage? heavy shelling... light? hap-hazzard? This station is located on redstone arsenal and is owned by U.S. army asian stock markets open, recovered, and gained.. . no report of what civilian targets have been hit in Saudi "It was absolutely clear that Saddam Hussein was in a very angry, defiant mood" (word from listening post on Cypress, hearing Iraqi radio come back up) BRB. The latest logfiles are up (Uh, Cyprus) nightline filling time.....no real good stuff seems to be haphazard shelling sdr: kairo-report, bush-talk was broadcasted there, too. no special events Lost_Boy: My log is 170K long Many comm links in Israel, as well as one of the computers here (an IBM mainfraim) are unavialable. Probably due to army usage. (since no new pertinent info is coming) was Bush SMILING during that talk? secDef baker has gone home to bed 8) baker has gone to bed... heh.. Interesting statement from British reporter. Britian was in combat in Kuwaitt in 1961 to repel an Iraqi attack. scott: yeah, he was sorta smirking... I thought he had dimples and he was grinning uncontrollably... intimidating! He messed up the speech a few times and cracked a grin when he was talking about liberating Kuwait. representative of iraqi TV is talking to CNN people in bagdad now. PM of Turkey will request war powers from cabinet Leading strike forces returned without losses! Update coming in! turkey going to dicuss and possibly declare war on iraq? People in New York (1,000 Ppl) demonstrating in front of UN building. Iraqi TV indicated CNN will be permitted to transmit pictures taken last night via their satelite equipment CBS: peace? (obviously?) Scott: Yes. Iraqi air force decimated! we will know for sure later swan - unbeliveable!! star: that is ollld :) ok for wumpus: I am watching ABC. and I switch to PBS (15/23 petersburg/richmond) gone back to fnet see ya! (for those of you just tuning in to radio IRC I will give an update now). 1) republican guard (iraqi elite troops) "decimated". 2) iraqi air force near eliminated. 3) scud missiles probably eliminated. 5 launched, 4 burst in air, 1 landed harmlessly in CBS: Oil prices relaxed to $35.00 a barrel. desert. nuke/bio/chem sites hit. command centers hit. iraqi shelling saudi refinery. CBS back to local news. If turkey declares war, can the soviet tanks roll through? CBS Local news reports 400 cruisemissiles launched from Gulf. rioting in the occupied territories. israel not hit. saddam asks his people to teach americans a lesson. abc: all targets outside/visible are in "pretty bad shape" or "decimated" --> like republican guard.. Scott: Turkish PM wants to get permission for US to use bases inside Turkey. That's all IRC radio reporter Nati, reporting from Nati comm center, Haifa, Israel. This is an update: In israel Civil Defence State was announced, Citizens were ordered to stay at home, keep gas masks near and be ready NPR: CNN stated permission was already granted? ok guys, since nothing real is happening, I'm gonna grab a couple hours sleep. I noticed 2 irc logs so far on xanth.cs.odu.edu /incoming/misc. I'll be putting mine up tomorrow, and at least two others have agreed to do the same. I'll see yall in a few hou Full cerfew put on the occupied teretories, strictly kept. In east Jerusalem: some riots in 2 arab nighberhods after which there were heavy police potrols see ya quaze. I'm leaving too. nati: Are they having a lot of casualties? No alarm was sounded and most Israelis continued to sleep as normal. The economey here has been put in emergancy state for the first time since 1973 (th Yum Kipur War) thanks alll..see ya soon on this bat-frequency.. 93?? that is a lot ... No casualties at all. Nothing happend here. ok thanks. I will only be useful. Ok, people, I am sending out my last logfile. CBS is still on local news. I'm going to signoff, hope to be back tomorrow to check on Info. ABC --> recapping... 18 1/2 hours... Bill rettiford from e. s.a give early indication.. About 600 people are gathered at the Federal buidling in Seattle. So far they are peaceful. Bye everyone! I have to go now.... Bye bye all ! In Bagdhad as targets have been communications center and the airport. I have work tomorrow... nightline waiting to go to sG !lPL7=dt7^6.3=92sv Saddam on radio: Pres. Bush is a hypocritical criminal. Planes are still taking off and landing in Saudi. NPR is recapping the time-line of tonight and quoting the quotes, so off I go to bed. Saddam said: The mother of all battles has begun. It is now daybreak there. CBS: Still no reports of losses on US/UN side. No air combat. Nato says Saddam can still pull out. goal is not occupation of Iraq, but freedom of Kuwait. Wallops from oddjob.uchicago.edu: Received SQUIT nic.funet.fi from bucsd.bu.edu live from Iraq: The bombing was massive. 5 miles from city. eye: which city? There is smoke (heavy) in bagdad. Wallops from argst1: british authorities report no casualties That bombing was around Bagdad. (sorry). Israelis have been told to stay home. It is now daybreak in Israel. Anyone know about the CNN news team? Are they still in Baghdad? There are still journalists in the hotel. I don't know about CNN. CNN said that US forces have decimeted Iraqi missile bases in western Iraq. (threat to Israel). For those who are asking: I am watching CNN, NBC and local news. (Seattle) First video from Saudi Arabia. NBC is showing it. Just blurry shots of planes taking off. I wonder when/if the air force will release video from the bombings. Iraqi terrorist have filled Lake Huron with Nestle's quick and demand an uncensored appearance on Hollywood Squares with John Davidson! Group at the federal building is growing. (Seattle) many police. thousands more on the way. Saddam on radio: Palistine and Mecca will be liberated. test. test Iraki army spokeman tried to speak over radi, but jammed. Also, Iraki continue to jamm 'voice of america' transmitions. Iraqi television has said it will transmit a message in a few minutes. (cnn) So says IL radio. CNN: Showing video of planes preparing to fly to Iraq (video is from before the attack.). Earlier. For those who missed it, the Iraqis were shelling a town directly to the south of Kuwait. I forgot the name (sorry). Apparently the Saudi troop who were supposed to be there were not. That surprised the reporter. Canadians now riding shot-gun for Allied bombers... The city was Kjafi. (thanks Chronos) SaudiTV: most of iraki troops eliminated. (republican guard divisions) The reporter said that the Iraqis could just walk in. Specualtion says that the Saudi troops were transfered elsewhere. A french journalist in bagdad reports telecommunications tower in Bagdad hit and destroyed. journalist in Bagdad: Palace had much activity. much anti- aircraft activity from there. but no confirmed hits. no smoke from there, Baghdad downtown still appears untouched.... outskirts condition unknown as yet... the journalist is Allen Pizzey of CBS. CNN: London: Prime minister about to speak: England has 2nd largest plane force. rumor from Chronos: UK has 40,000 troops there. Three CNN reporters are Okay. Americans lost 105 lives BEFORE operation Desert_Shield. All accidents, etc... Thu Jan 17 07:43:17 EET 1991 ABC: poll says 89% of US pop day US will win war quickly. 1% say no. Chronos troop stats come from PBS bin seit 5 uhr online :) So far all has gone very well stratigically. No reports of losses. CNN: showing returning planes to Saudi. Perhaps it is bad that all has gone so well. This may encourage us to continue being the worlds police. can anyone out there find any known religious interpretations for the quote: "Mother of all battles." (Saddam seems to love this phrase) complx: I've been on *THIS* channel for 6 hours and 5 minutes ... complx: ...and I've been IRC'ing for 9 hours and 30 minutes continuously local news (Seattle): Terrorism attacks may not be covered by insurence policies. (act of war). The White House is not active. The "situation room" still ahs people, but they don't talk to the press. hi ./comm silent dturner +report. ./comm silent Ely +report 'lo. Chronos: hi. You have a voice! k5: lo! CNN: said only a handfull of Iraqi planes took off. That is the first I have heard of Iraqi planes taking off. Saudi telecommunications feed to K5 is gone. date NATO ministers meeting in an emergency session today... Wallops from Hamlet: Hmmm...is it just me or are we all quite ;-). Wallops from Daemon: Quite what? SDR3: iraq military communique, 18000 tons of bombs, cause of the ? iraq air defense they bombed from a high altitude, bombs fell on. civil areas. Wallops from banshee: yes yes... quite what??? the SUSPENSE is killing me. US ambassador to UN was just asked if he has a message for hussein. He said "I think the message was just delivered" Finland has put extra policemen to guard US and Iraqi embassies in Helsinki test Wallops from banshee: OH. quiet! Hamlet, learn to type. Wallops from Tce: awww give him a break - hes on a VMS. Wallops from spam: Ooooh, you! Why, you dirty rat, I'll give you such a.. a.. a WALLOP! Wallops from banshee: Oops. did I start something again? *innocent look* sorry guys. saddam hussein to appear on Iraqi TV ... soon ... probably different from his "mother of battles" stuff on radio UN's chief secretary Javier Perez De Cuellar is sad for the beginning of the war, and angry for that he was not told about the air raid in advance. president bush allowed sale of oilfrom nation's stockpiles within the next 30 days. Saddam Hussein's house was hit and burnt to the ground ... (no, he was most probably not there) date SDR3: Oil reserves in Europe will last more than 100 days, german reserves more than 130 days Iraqi hasn't succeeded in destroying the oil refineries of Saudi-Arabia. Oil prices moving sharply down ... should soon be below $20 a barrel ... once they knew Saudi oil facilities had not been hit. British source described oil prices today as a roller coaster ride comm pjg +report 400 bombing raids in a 3 hour period ... total amount about 18000 tons ... equal to a small nuke ... in Baghdad alone comm Lare +report wasn't the hiroshima bomb about 20,000 tons? dodo: i think you're right ... that's why i said it was almost equal to a small nuke ouch. so, where do u need nukes for? (-: comm d +report Price of oil now $40 a barrel though it is expected to fall to below $20 a barrel. clarification: 18000 tons of bombs dropped in Baghdad, but almost no damage to the downtown area ... civilian areas largely spared exit. jobs -l Turkey has announced that it plans to ask permission from its parliament to cross the border into Iraq (though they had earlier wanted to stay neutral) silence... Turkey is the only NATO ally with a border on Iraq. Jordan has put its forces on alert and closed the airport in Amman I've got a question. Baghdad is currently under attack we have sound on K5 banshee : for whom ? what ? when is Tom Brokaw going to get ANY sleep tonite. banshee: :) Good question. :-) crude oil now $2a barrel :-P'''''' Please, no chop wars. sorry ... i mean it's down $2 a barrel This is for information, not for wards. I mean the white house is asleep... but the news guys are still up. (then again.. so am I) they're bombing baghdad right now Saddam said that USA has failed to crush Iraq with the massive air raid. ... that the mother of all battles has begun. that's old news. The report stating that Saddam Huusein's home was hit and burnt came from Israeli radio quoting Baghdad radio Saddam has said that the only targets which were hit were those which 'God' wanted hit I wonder what frequency R. Israel is. . what is it with this "Mother of all battles" bit ??? is this a blblical reference ? if it is, from where ? K5: i would think it is from Quran It isn't. Quite possibly a religious one, nontheless. Probably. NATO allies have sent sophisticated equipment and other equipment to Turkey just in case geeez. 3-10 days of heavy bombing. whoi wintermut They plan on rehitting some of the targets they hit last night. Wintermut on this channel reports that US journalist at the front says Radio Baghdad has just gone off the air I know the freq's for radio Israel Things said here are being logged. This is the third log, spelling nearly .5M of information. I heard rad. baghdad went off the air much earlier (and that we jammed all their freqs) Another air attack underway now python: yes, there was speculation that either the radio towers had been hit, or the jamming was working set logfile report.3 What are the R. Israel frequencies? yu realize this channel is a concise report of CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and local stations and radio stations. :) According to Popular Communcations magazine, Kol Israel, 9435//11605//12077 at 2230-2300, 0000-0030, 0100- 0130; 11605//12077//15640 at 2000-2030. 17575//21790 at 1100-1130; 9455 at 0015 and 17590 at 1900 So... it's 0545Z now... those times in UTC No R. Israel up now, then. New raid has begun 20 minutes ago. Baghdad is under heavy attack. 1.2 million barrels to be put on the market per day by Bush from the nation's stockpiles Brief wave of attack on Bagdhad has finished for the next 30 days. lots of things that Hussein can do now that he couldn't do earlie Rauli Virtanen said in front of 1 million Finnish citizens "No connection yet? Holy shit" such as use surface to air missiles,. use anti- aircraft missiles that require sightings, etc ... things may not be so good for the allies from now on The centrum of Baghdad has not suffered of severe damage (Rauli Virtanen, Amman). In stead missile bases have been destroyed. Mikhael Gorbachev to appear on soviet TV shortly to talk about the gulf Thu Jan 17 08:56:36 EET 1991 Iran has said that all this is a terrible blow to life and resources in the area ... "we are sorry that all efforts to end the crisis have failed" CNN: Jordan border area (neutral zone) hit with bombs during the night ... Iran told it's citizens not to worry, that they were armed and ready, but they didn't say what they were ready for CNN: Jordanian air space is open ... 18007321206 U.S. Navy gen. Info immediate family number ... 18005232694 marine corp gen info number for family PLO has adviced the whole world to raise against USA and the alliance. I got them all. DoD update numbers for immediate family use only. Air Force: 1-800-253-9276. Army 1-703- 614-9276. reporter at CNN saw Hussain walking to TV station less than an hour ago ... Navy, specific info: 1-800-255-3808. Navy, general info: 1-800-732=0206. Marines: 1-800-523-2694. BBc reports that about 9 tons of bombs had been dropped in and around Baghdad (comment: huh ? what about the 18000 tons ? do they mean that Britain dropped 9 tons ?) Saudi Hospitals told to expect "hundreds of casualties" from the front lines over the next few days Sean Connery said the US should not have been involved !!! Tank battle has begun between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. FinnTV3: are you sure ? I heard no ground moves had yet been made dodo1: es. FinnTV3: confirmation? That's what National TV 2 said. dodo1: Yes, a reporter on CNN just claimed so CNN : Tomahawks seen leaving U.S. criusers ... over 40 more then launched next ... Tomahawks are low flying cruise missles ... Unconfirmed "some Iraqi troops have surrendered" - ABC Is there any rioting on any campuses there? (there is here) CNN radio: Hussein: The beginning of the end of world imperialism as practiced by the US. Red Sea and Gulf ships preceeded Air attack with cruise missles (range: 800 mi.) Saddam claims that the raids achieved nothing except civilian casualties. Terrorist expert in L.A. says terrorist threats in the US are real threats and we have to be careful Hussein: a decade of terrorism will follow. Attacks by air with interceptors and ground attack craft were largely successful, but daylight raids WILL continue through the day ... Australian protestors arrested for daubing animal blood on Defence Recruiting Centre exterior walls Moscow forces put on high alert in southern USSR . .. any campus riots going on? python: no, but highways have been blocked by peace activists in Pittsburgh ... 17 students were arrested at the peace demonstrations at the University of Pittsburgh yesterday 10 days around the clock bombing has been planned by pentagon ... Iraqiis have made some black smoke over Baghdad to hide the most vulnerable places... Egypt reports that the Iraqi missile backbone has indeed been broken Western TV tech saw Hussein at TV station at 1 EST. he looked 'resolute and determined' there was a big riot here at OU and I thought I heard a shot fired Australian domestic airlines will require Passport for domestic travel from today Hussein: Bush is 'hypocritical criminal'. SH will 'crush the satanic intentions'. USSR troops in south on 'high state of alert' reports that some Iraqui missiles WERE launched at Saudi Arabia but none reached their targets Large bomb sounds in baghdad reported by CNN journalist ... Wallops from lyman.pppl.gov: Remote 'CONNECT garf*edu 6667' from Armin Attack near Iraqi Foreign ministry ... anti- aircraft batterys firing ... any casaulty report ? CNN is reporting there *was* some _white_ smoke over a wide area, but they don't know the reason for it..... No official report of american casualties. official confirmation that second attack is underway .... baghdad and probably other targets too John Major 'pleased'. No British casualties. British Prime Minister to speak soon outside 10 Downing Street ... after Breakfast on CBS. their breakfast, that is, soon NATO met at 3:30 am in Brussels. anyone monitoring NPR? US Ambassador 'Not destruction...of Iraq but the liberation of Kuwait' French troops are on their way to join with Allies .... (rumor) BBC reporter in iraq: huge acrid cloud of smoke. .. possible chemical weapons plant. CNN says smoke in Baghdad has a powerful odor .... add-on CBS-radio some people dived for their gas masks in Iraq, but the air seems to be clear of dangerous chemicals Major and Gorbachev about to make speeches, but delayed. Prime Minister John Major and Mickhael Gorbachev to speak soon .... both had been delayed since announcement Part of presidential palace has been hit ... iraqi oil refineries ... airport in Baghdad hit ... CBS: Saddam believes he is fighting for all Arabs. Egyptians don't think so ... Soviets say "very sad and tragic"...have ordered inspections of civil defense arrangements in Southern USSR. 'Arabs will feel the hurt and defeat of Saddam.. . It is a battle for the Arab soul' Reports are attempting to comfirm a SCUD launch .. .. ABC: Iraqi position , defending humanity, future of the world , will regain all arab writes, and show the iraqi military might .... test Army not active yet. second attack: explosions, no idea where in Baghdad they were , one big explosion CNN: black smoke still in bdad, iraq shooting anti- aircraft guns (reports that there are no planes overhead) Iraqi armed forces communique 1: attacks started 230 am...continuing...from S.A. 'cursed attack' unconfirmed Civilian targets hit in western Bagdhad. ..communications centre, oil refinery - residential areas close by. Baghdad: lights out. explosions in unknown places. possibly power station.. huge explosion, much smoke. There is still traffic. Govt Hdqtrs hit. (BBC reporter in Bagh.) 400 raids in 1st 3 hours (60 separate targets) (NPR) (unconfirmed re civilians source: private telephone from Jordan) Cuba and N. Korea condemns Allied action ... main telecommunications tower/oil refinery hit Major still late for speech. I believe NPR is relaying BBC CBS is carrying BBC also. Oil is down $3 a barrel 150 Saudi jets currently involved in attack ... gold price fell in London. All financial markets in the US to remain open inspite of war Pentagon:Bombing will continue for a long period Brigadier General in Israel said that he knew that missiles aimed at Israel had been destroyed Just spoke to a pilot - Said he was shooting down the SAMS , providing cover for fighter/bombers Robert: who spoke ? dodo1: A "unkown" pilot who just returned. Said he was going in for breakfast and the going back out on another mission...on ABC I think Why will no one in this group reply to me? confirming robert's message from the pilot .. a Colonel ... on CBS-Radio All of his 12 planes returned safely. Win one for the Gipper! cyprus reports quoting iraqi sources that iraqi residential areas HAVE been hit John Major: enormous effort to prevent civilian casualties. JM: Negotians possible if SH withdraws. Wallops from ira.uka.de: Remote 'CONNECT garf*edu 6667' from Armin. Wallops from ira.uka.de: Remote 'CONNECT net* 6667' from Armin high-pitched roar in baghdad (CNN) don't know what it is Japanese company claims attack on oil facility off SA coast .. damage only - not destroyed JM is not aware of even a single British casualty BBC: headlines: 'WAR' 'BLITZ' 'BAGHDAD BLITZ' Denver Post - "IT'S WAR" Kuwait ambassador in Paris said raid destroyed Iraqi command post in Kuwait. No damage to Kuwait city. Pentagon: major announcement from Cheney 7 am EST. Cameras on planes will be used to inspect damage. war in an intelligence-collating stage now to analyze damages. defense minister to give second briefing on 2nd wave soon missiles aimed for israel struck in 1st attack (is. def. minister) "It was a very good morning" sorry ,.. read "to give briefing on second attack". the defense minister has not yet spoken on the 2nd wave let's try again... iraq's missiles were destroyed in 1st attack Jerusalem reporter says Israel just issued 'Order 8' to activate reservists Are the Israelis planning to attack Iraq or only defend themselves? We outnumbered Iraqi AF 3-1 before attack. jordan radio described raid as act of aggression, no official respons from egypt cbs: the israelis are just planning to defend ... but there is a lessened chance of their being attacked, considering the damages to missiles and air force thanks, dodo1. why is nobody saying anything about the second wave ? could it be that it didn't turn out so good ? they're talking crap on all the networks now ! Give Peace a Chance! -John Lennon. Appears that information is now getting very hard to come by...CNN still talking to reporters in Baghdad Imagine - John Lennon President Bush trying to get some sleep ! :). serious ! CBS Radio justr rep[orted it Wallops from netserv2.its.rpi.edu: Received SQUIT ira.uka.de from bucsd.bu.edu French aircraft may have been involved in second attack as it was in the daytime ... French aircraft, like the Iraqis', are not well equipped for night warfare. 11: 29 in the morning in Saudi Arabia. no signs that Iraq was attacked with anything more than anti-aircraft artilleries. oops ... i mean no signs that Iraq HAS attacked with anything other than AAA !!! you mean they attacked US with no more than anti-aircraft art? sorry for that ! ... thanks NPR. price of oil near $40 a barrel ... for those who don't yet know: President Bush has allowed release of 1.2 million barrels a day of oil to be released from national stockpiles for 30 days to keep prices down CNN is airing unedited pool footage of interviews w/ troops correspondent in Israel saw 2 kids going to play tennis with gas-masks in their hands, but. the tension seems to be low ... Egypt reports that the Iraqi. missile and airforce system has been almost totally destroyed Lt. Colenel being interviewed by CNN saying that some Iraqi planes did take off, but did not engage. Instead they headed north whois Aussie CD Muammar Quaddafi of Libya s. Muammar Quaddafi of Libya said that the US led attack should not go beyond driving Iraq out of Iraq. oops. Iraq out of Kuwait. sorry, guys . Currently "considerable consternation" in Jordan. SEan Connery said US has no business to be there ! where did you hear that, dodo/ NPR: CBS-Radio ... actually interviewed him IS THERE ANY NEW REPORTAGE? I haven't seen any for a while BTV_3: NO, and that seems VERY STRANGE to me ... they're just broadcasting old hat all over the place Ahhh, The waiting... only some reports from Baghdad that some bombs had started falling .... Jaguars from French air-force probably in action now Wallops from helium.elec.ufl.edu: Received SQUIT hub.cs.jmu.edu from bucsd.bu.edu Jaguars probably went in action against a target in Kuwait. update: airforce and missile force destroyed ... almost. pilots of first wave back. second wave now attacking. four french planes attacked, hit, but returned safely who says, dodo1? dodo1: Planes hit, or target hit ? first wave (according to israel quoting baghdad radio) destroyed saddam's residence. robert: 4 planes hit , returned safely Current wave is to seek out remaining radar.... (yawn..) robert: french planes. NPR: CBS. saddam seen alive. at a TV statiopn by a Western technician. ... all hold hat ... i'm just updating for those who haven't been on until lately ... no new news for nearly an hour now is that good news? NPR: well, if i were the pilot, i would have wished he was in the house when i bombed :). but i wonder why there is no fresh news ... i dunno ... all the channels/frequencies are reporting old stuff/ interviewing irrelevant people ! Once remaining radar mopped-up, A10's can go in, followed by ground invasion? relay: no, i think the B-15s will go in b4 that , for what they call carpet bombing b-15? and the A-10s at their tails But doubtful that news silence is any more than normally conspiratorial. realy: well, i hope so. NPR: heavy bombers, fly low dodo1: exactly....gee it's quiet... gee ... they're reporting opinion polls now ! dodo1, do you have any results? ated channel!it's so quiet cause its a bloody moder NPR: iraquis 34-36 yrs old must report for mil. duty within next 3 days (reserves) NPR: i switched channels immediately ... u think i'm gonna waste my time listening to how many people thought what Bush did was right ? :) its so quiet as its a moderated channel Israel still warning citizens to be on the alert mup: not quite .... i'd report ... and the others would report ... anything new on the channel ... but there IS NOTHING being reported anywhere !!! In Turkey, the bus tickets to the Western countries have been very pricey on the black market for a fortnight Yes, Mup, we're just quietly and politely waiting... without offering too much uninformed opinion maex: dont want to discuss npr says 700 demonstrators in berlin (others in hamburg, frankfurt, bonn) In Turkay, the criticism of Turkey allowing USA airplanes go through Turkey has been very strong. saddam is talking now relay: ok. thanks (on CNN) SH is appealing to the sons of the people, nation and armed forces Saddam: "In the name of allah, most mericful and commpassionate..." saddam: Quoting from Koran. sadaam; Stand up again evil the infidels their sup[porters and their lies Reagan says war was to be expected ... he heard news on TV SH: in the name of Allah, we believe...the GREAT IRAQI PEOPLE..stand up against evil and their supporters and Allies. At 2:30 am tonight (16 Jan) the treacherous foes and Bush the SATAN perpetrated his crime saddam: Bush the satan has purportrated this crime. saddam: Callin gon muslem faith, and god for help again "satan" SH: The faithful & the brave who carried the light of ISLAM to all humanity...were bravely confronting the foes...God supported & guided them again some rumors that some Iraqi soldiers are surrendering / have surrendered ... CBS just reported this SH: the criminals are not ashamed of themselves saddam: Mentioning god, faithful and religion a lot SH: Fahad will rot in hell- he is a treacherous criminal saddam: "God is with us, god is always with the patient the steadfat. saddam: ....after the defaeth of the satan in the whitehouse, bush.... criminal TelAviv will also be defeated .....adn the arab will be liberated everywhere SH:Criminal Tel-Aviv will be beaten, the Golan heights will be liberated...All Arabs will be liberated. SH: God is Great, God is Great, God is Great - Victory is there with the support of God He's raving a lot...mentions god and the faithful a hell of a lot bbc says US is leaving door open for iraq to withdraw from kuwait w/o further destruction The above SH: speech was old news BTW broadcast after 1st wave... free Kuwait Radio, b-casting from Saudi Arabia: there is ground action ... not yet confirmed by Pentagon ... very biased source, please remember Call's the enemies trecherous and traitors and bush satan every effort is being made keep civ. casualities low (u.n. security council briefing) daylight raids hitting outskirts of Baghdad dodo1, what's the freq? NPR: CBS radio reported it Some air battles apparenty..with french fighters... as yet unconfirmed gorby will be on in 15 minutes (CNN) reports of iraqi surrenders also came from Free Kuwait Radio from Saudi Arabia Australian correspondent in London reporting that some type of retaliation has just begun. (BY IRAQ) BBC: 4 french jets hit over occupied Kuwait ... but they returned safely. they were Jaguars. some border areas of Jordan hit by bombs and in flames iraqi troops beginning to surrender (CNN) and shelling by iraqi artillery ... also ground activity rumor probably accidental hits while US pilots were trying to bomb border facilities possibly 530 iraqi aircraft destroyed (immobilized at least) CNN A pilot says he was surprised at what little resistance he met. Colonel Don something Iraq has drafted all men born in 1954, 55, and 56 to the army. confirmed: battle joined on the ground. rumor widespread: some iraqi soldiers have started surrendering. demonstrations in New York, Times Square: demonstrators chanting no blood for oil. President Bush has authorized release of oil from nation's stockpiles for the next 30 days IL: i hear about Irakis artillery bombs some saudi oil equip no confirmed reports of any saudi oil facilities having been damaged Also , Israeli TV says that there are some ground combat (egypt sources(?)) The two major air bases in Kuwait have been taken out ground movement now confirmed by most sources ... also the surrender of some iraqi soldiers. one pilot said one, and another pilot said two surface-to-air missiles had been fired. no damage from them bbc report american planes retaliated against artillary that attacked saudi oil thing (no further reports... yawn) Info from RIYADH: In 1 hour, details will be revealed of the artillery attack reported by CBS reporter a few hours ago war against iraq is 10 hours old no casualities, but tanks on fire in border town btwn SA and kuwait. (CNN) CNN relaying allegations that SA troops "ran" from the attack kuwaitee radio says ground forces moving towards kuwait CNN say Allied ground forces moving into Kuwait airfield near baghdad supposedly suffered direct hit (CNN) CNN London: Pressure will be exerted along a broad front looking for weaknesses in front lines due to lowered Iq morale margaret thatcher: in my view dictators don't surrender ... they have to be defeated Tomahawk cruise missiles were used earlier today.. for strategia/important targets in Baghdad iraq claims 14 allied planes have been shot down. [comment even they admit only 14 have been shot down ... the real number must be much smaller] gorby's on now They are running Army recruiting commercials on Aussie TV! MG: in beginnin of iraqi aggression, ussr did all it could tos olve by peaceful means Iraqi state radio: "14 allied planes shot down" MG: realizing what consequences for internat'nl situation, we express deep sorry that military confrontation could not be averted 18000 tons of explosives dropped in first raid ... almost a small nuke in total power GORBY: warning received 1 hour in advance... suggested Bush to contact Hussein...Gorby then contacted Iraq and suggested they withdraw...also contacted China, Italy, France, etc, to attempt to localise the conflict... we express deep sorrow that Military MG: I want to inform you that among soviet people who are still in irq, there are no casualities bye conflict could not be avertted the one dropped on hiroshima was 20000 tons approx MG: ussr will cooperate w/ UN to stop war if possible Appears ground battle is begining Cobras, Harriers & A-10s have gone in [News Cable]. (Anti-Tank equipment) CBS: quting french sources: 12 french planes involved in second raid, 4 hit by ground fire, one pilot slightly injured, all managed to return safely on their own power. quting=quoting German Radio: Paris says French ground-troups have enemy-contact! iraqi sodiers removing uniforms/putting on civ. clothes (desertion) CNN. baghdad radio says 14 planes downed in dogfights (enemy planes of verious kinds) ?? 3 of them shot down by presidential guard (??) (??) Australian protests:3000 in Sydney,2000 in Brisbane, 200 in Canberra tass says the iraqi people will pay a very heavy price for the reckless actions of their leadership. soviet ambassador took last request from bush to hussein and said "for your own sake, pull out" -tass later. FLASH: US says no knowledge of ground fighting.. Pentagon statement French foreign minister says, French troops have! News from the Treasury Dept: Money can make you rich! :-) maex: french troops have what ? Protests:THERE WERE ~10,000 people in downtown Santa Cruz, a population 45000 city with usual major highways were blocked off,. +government buildings blockaded, gas stations blockaded. Santa Cruz, CA: with a population of 45000, a large percentage of residents are anti-war, some news: major Highway to silicon valley blocked off for a while tonight, anywhere from 10-20000 people protested downtown Santa Cruz, University Of California at u. oop :) F15/F18 doing victory rolls over SA - Australian correspondent brent north sea crude down $5.50/barrel CNN: Oil at 23.50 USD (pre invasion prices) tokyo up 1000+ pts (CNN stock report). london up 33pts (open for 1 hr) It's been going for 10.5 Hours now folks. CNN says ground movements have started, as does BBC, Pentagon denying accuracy of these reports 3 high schools and 2 junior high schools in Santa Cruz Conty attracted attention today by walking out of classes and marching to downtown santa cruz where they united with UCSC students for social responsibiltiy F4/F15 pilots say..."a lot of good adrenalin"... "the same adrenalin as a young hunter on his first hunt" CNN just in... (from wire). bagdad radio ... iraq shot down 14 planes, pentagon not talking about planes/casualties. (sorry, nothing new) A new governmental party claims to be on the verge of going public, Founding mothers and fathers of america, a party dedicated to gradual world disarmorment second wave of attacks was started about 3 hours ago (does anyone have the silver prices) fighters have been mainly used by the alliance. 'Bagdad was like a Christmas tree' official line still that americans are gathering information on extent of losses. britain, kuwait, france have reported no losses. except for 4 french jaguars being hit. but they returned safely under their own power shalom! one pilot slightly injured Pentagon not talking figures, dismissing reports of 14 "out of hand" for political reasons, france has limited its activity to kuwaiti territory Analyst: Pentagon has not as yet given a list of targets hit/destroyed...being very general 200 people demonstrated on Pennsylvania Avenue outside the White House. gold is down $20 an ounce dodo1, any violence? Iraq Bagdad Ministery of Defence has been destroyed... NPR: no ... they're singing BTW, what was the kilotonnage dropped to Iraq during the first attack wave? US morning newspapers optimistic napoleon: 18000 tons. so that's 18 kilotons 2 kilotons below the nuke that was dropped on hiroshima 2 kilotons below the nuke that was dropped on hiroshima Heard there were casualties of 150,000 Iraquis (other channel). Can't be true? Any confirmation? 1 out of 40 rounds of iraqi artillery struck half-filled gas tank at saudi border refinery (CNN) okay guys .... i'm out ... other chanops please take over ABC reports US technology means that if Irq soldiers use a radio for a few minutes they could die what, relay? 12 Jaguar planes participated in a raid. Curfew on Israel as from 4 am Israeli time. People urged to take all precautions. French-US agreement for the French to intervene only in Kuwait. Explosions still heard in Bagdad CNN Baghdad reports bombers every 10-15 minutes... limited AAA in response...bombing moving outwards from city limits 3 bombs hit the Defense ministry in Bagdad. Iraq reports hitting 14 planes. Hussain is alive. On TV, he seemed "determined and resolute". Israel is spared yet, but fears missiles. Population asked to prepare gas masks. Syria calm. in Paris, an antiterrorist plan put into effect. Cuba and Yemen will propose curfew US pilots KEESEE and PEMBERTON of 82nd Airborne reported as saying everything is being taken seriously, "We fight as we train" -- If anyone has been makiong an irclog from the very beginning (12 am GMT), please msg Leopold privatly. ClancyCNN reports 82nd Airborne carrying Chem suits and taking anti-nerve-gas medication. People think some eaggeration in Pentagon success reports. Over 1300 airplane sorties planned for the day. 4 Jaguar french airplanes slightly hit, one pilot slightly wounded. Nuclear and chemical installations, as well as midrange missiles -- were the targets and mostly hit No injuries reported 82nd Airborne..CNN 82nd airborne are paratroopers (may go into kuwait city rumored) (paratroopers). Briefing just finished in Jerusalem - state of alert unlikely to be lifted "in foreseeable future" 50 irqi tanks gave themselves in. saudi refinery hit. stock exchanges up ~ 4.5% in Paris and Tokyo is sadam still alive ??? they sas it is possible that he was killed Sadam said to be alive, seen this morning on Iraqi TV, looking resolute and his report was made before Australian correspondent in Jerusalem reports Israel feeling vulnerable -- no confirmation that *all* SCUD sites threatening Israel have been neutralised. There is heavy censorship of all media reports, but no individual reporters are being tagged Gold down 18%. Gas down to $23 in Englan USA says that absolutely NO civilian targets have been hit in Iraq. CNN 7:30 meeting of Bush, Cheney, and National Security Board /m dodo hallo, bad news Fidel Castro has been strongly against the USA attack to Iraq. CNN State Department says doors are still open for Hussien to talk, as long as the 12 points are met that were discussed earlier US State dept refusing to link present conflict with general Mid-East problems they say US planes have destroyed all chem and nuke plants in iraq anyone confirm the terrorist attacks in italy? Iraqi artillery attacked a saudi refinery. Sadam H appeared early this morning on Iraqi TV. Finnish Red cross sends hospital & personnel to Gulf CNN minor resistance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait for air raids, few SAMS, but not much janyst2: There was a scare in Los Angeles over an Italian aircraft - nothing else so far... thanx relay wiesel: who "they say" please say which sources CBS reports worries for journalists trapped in Baghdad test. 4 french planes hit over Kuwait Itzhak Shamir prudently optimistic. The 4 french planes that were hit returned safely to base, one pilot slitghly injured. Iraqi army recognizes armed and civilian areas hit Allen Pizzey CBS Baghdad has driven all around Baghdad - there is no, repeat *no* damage to any buildings in greater Baghdad Pentagon denies 14 planes downed by Irakis r_[bbc] Since 1.20 GMT (war started 0:00 gmt). Please no more msgs to this nickname. Use leopold (will be back son) as all we write goes to the logfile. Iraqi forces reported to have begun shelling behind SA lines (CBS) 50 iraki tanks surrendered on the kuweiti border to the allied forces. Some iraki shells on a saudi oil refinery not much damage, US responds by heavy fire LONDON - OIL price brent light crude US$23 French gas companies freeze the price of gas #Maex# link problems ... hold on :-( Wallops from ira.uka.de: Remote 'CONNECT nets* 6667' from Ulysses If such missiles exist - Tel Aviv is within range - repeat:speculation only Wallops from ira.uka.de: Remote 'CONNECT nets* 6667' from Ulysses NEWS has slowed again... But i have send a 120$ cheque to US to register to a programm. I hope the dollar will not fall to much this week bye ele what means 45-106 ? Any News-Flashes??? rex: no news What means 45-106 p.e. just old news on CNN, what about others? No activity in Lithuania - Gulf news has *really* slowed nickquick: check drawn in US funds? Unconfirmed report journalists injured in Jordan (CNN) overdog +report. Gil-Galad +report Wallops from cunixa.cc.columbia.edu: Remote 'CONNECT bi*il 6667' from Armin BBC report from Bahrain - some Allied casualties - low level. Unconfirmed reports of Iraqi troops deserting Wallops from tuegate.tue.nl: Remote 'CONNECT fysaj* 6667' from msa. Wallops from tuegate.tue.nl: Remote 'CONNECT fysaj* 6667' from msa ABC London - Commanders report casualties..Analysts suggest some Tornados may have been grounded. This report comes from Royal Air Force Tornado Squadron Commander via BBC via ABC Wallops from cunixa.cc.columbia.edu: Remote 'CONNECT *il 6667' from Armin White House report - Bush says "things are going exactly as reported" "things are going well" Bush's advisors will be meeting with him in next couple of hours. US newspapers: NY Times 'No Choice but force' NY Post 'US Jets blast Baghdad'. Unconfirmed report from Suadi *UNCONFIRMED* as many as 50 Iraqi tanks have surrendered to Saudis YLE: The Iraqi Defense Ministry has been hit by three bombs CNN Baghdad: Saddam's Party HQ directly hit Wallops from Avalon: 200+ users ??!! 2:1 user: server ??!! Hmmm..first bomb-warnings in Germany, Bad Toelz. dpa, i guess. CNN Baghdad: Saddam was sighted thismorning.. currently 2:10pm in Baghdad - population seems calm peace! what about those planes shot down? is that true? CNN crew in Baghdad report they are moving freely around Baghdad, some reporters are leaving with Iraqi government assistance. CBS Washington reports Iraqi border forces may still be operational - B52's may be sent in to neutralise. Pentagon officials reported as being "happy with" developments. Confirmed reports of some Iraqi shelling, but no direct ground combat. Most action is still in the air... SweTV reports : Japanese owned oil refinery hit by Iraqi missile -- confirmed by the Japanese. +owners Iraqis launched rocket attack on japanese oil company. Bombing continues on Iraq right now. Australian TV reports massive tension in Jordan. Also reports "almost the complete Iraqi airforce has been wiped out" Apparently presiedential palace in Bagdad hit. People wonder about Iraq's reaction -- none so far. CNN: ~ 50 iraqi tanks surrendered to the allied forces Unconfirmed from IRC no japanese casualties on Oil plant Apparently most iraqi missile bases targeted towards Israel have been destroyed CNN reporting from Eastern SA, says expectations are that Iraqi soldiers will be "defecting in their thousands" Gorbatchev says he's been informed 1 hr before the war started. Wallops from hub.cs.jmu.edu: Received SQUIT gigantor.cs.uq.oz.au from astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU Hey they've all gone again John Major was informed Tuesday evening about the time of the attack. Says "it's an ongoing operation." Australian 707 for evacuation has been delayed in Bombay - refused refuelling A british Tornado has disappeared Saddam adviced the US troops to retreat An american F15 went down in the Gulf. Crew managed to eject. Pentagon (CNN): ground offensive not earlier than 1 week. Wallops from gigantor.cs.uq.oz.au: Received SQUIT minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au from hub.cs.jmu.edu Frenchrad, who said the british plane disappeared? Who sunk the US plane? CNN: US controls the skies. French Radio citing many sources CBS New York is reporting the plight of Arab Americans - they are praying for civilians in the area 40 cruise missiles launched from american ships. Jordanian palestinians (> 50% of the population) despair because of Sadam's defeat Donald Rumsfeld (Former US Defense Secy) says there probably won't be any pause in air attacks until all possible damage has been inflicted. Then, once muscle has been flexed, Iraqi troops will be given a chance to surrender. Unconfirmed reports GR1 lost in Gulf (French wire) Palestinians expulsed from Gulf emirates, Egyptian border almost totally closed to them. Routing of Iraq signifies end to palestinian revolution Iraq has drafted all men born 1954-1956 (YLE) Stock exchanges: up in Paris and Tokyo (4.5%). London (2.1%) Frankfurt (6%). Saudi Arabia announced keeps up its oil production US Boston Herald Headline "WE WILL NOT FAIL" Many US newspaper editorials are supportive of war effort International Energy Agency starts emergency plan. Australian TV relaying 2-man crew in the Tornado may have been lost Eyal: Tell about the feelings in Israel. And situation This is a report from the Israeli front: The feelings of the people over here are very calm but still alert. Sadam Hussain just spoke on Iraqi radio. "One must put shoulders together against the mecreants" We are very proud of our American allies who did this great work of saving us a war, thank you very much all. Sadam on radio: US attacked with Zionists. Sadam: War for arab nation has started UN meeting: There was no call for an immediate cease-fire. The Cuban delegate to UN says he has voted against all UN decisions. If any member nation asks for a cease-fire it must be considered. UN is still saying they'll continue until Iraq leave Kuwait Sadam: Iraqi fighters everywhere stood up to all aggressors who tried to beat Iraq. Sadam: Iraki fighters fought like lions and will defend Islam no matter what cost. Sadam: will defend islam holy sites and give a lesson to Fahd the saudi traitor. Sadam: Fahd is a traitor. Our victory is certain since God is with us My opinion: Saddam Hussain should be captured and convicted for his crimes. Sadam: We will have glory and victory. Please don't give personal opinions here just reports CENSORSHIP: Jordanian govt has announced no TV crews will be permitted free movement anywhere in Jordan - and will be subject to arrest if they do so. French: Fine, was just some feelings i guess. JORDAN: ABC reports animosity from Jordanian citizenry toward journalists. We all have our masks beside us and ready for a chimical attack if there will be any. Most reports about waht really happened in Iraq say sites were "probably", "likely" destroyed. No hard facts or numbers yet. Iraq attacked a saudi refinery and a japanese platform. Platform hit but no casualties Arafat has condemned the attack calling it a cowardly act Irani news: US F15 downed in gulf, pilot ejected. Pope hopes war ens quickly. Pope hopes war ends quickly. Have to quit now. Bye. We are not scared but we are just taking cautions since we have learned from other wars not to get happy before it's all over. The refinery is still operating, but maybe not for long CBS State Dept correspondent says there is a slight expectation Saddam may "suddenly surrender" Saddam: Mother of all battles has begun LATEST HEADLINES: Bombings continue, casualties low - Bush is "happy" - Saddam refuses to consider surrender There are planes flying all the time around here just in case of an attack. Tokyo stock exchange closed up 4.5% on opening Nikkei A. Appparently, there is a communication problem between CNN TV reporters and correspondents in Baghdad. ABC USA New York: After the "heaviest air attack in history" all planes from 1st sortie returned. The world stock exchanges have started to "roller-coaster" with reports of possible losses of Allied aircraft. (from the 2nd sortie) Some people didn't sleep all night but most of them went to sleep now. CNN Baghdad says Defence Ministry has been destroyed. Peter Arnett in Baghdad says chances of getting video of Baghdad are low, communication centres not working well, videos are being sent overland to Amman, Jordan for worldwide b'cast. CNN Baghdad crew are nervous, but still very professional. They say there are 45 journalists in Baghdad from foreign countries. Iraqi radio is slowly getting back into operation. Diplomatic negotiations still going on over Australian Air Force B707 stranded in Bombay due to refusal of refueling facilities. AUSTRALIAN TV report there has been NO collision of Australian ships in the Gulf Keep up the good work guys, and be justice between us all. Signing off from Israel... Trails of flashes of light seen in Baghdad -- no knowledge of bombing. (According to CNN) CBS report that Iraq report of 14 aircraft grounded is not true. One French pilot sustained "slightly" hurt. All Jaguars returned safely. CHINA has appealed to both sides to "exercise restraint" --- 500,000 Iraqi troops are on SA border (AUSTRALIAN TV). ABC USA reports the initial Air-strike "continues vigorously". CNN Baghdad: Skies have been quiet for 1.5 hours. Reporters have been out on the streets, BAATH party HQ destroyed, also Chemical plant to North of City levelled. Wallops from ira.uka.de: Received SQUIT netserv2.its.rpi.edu from uni-erlangen.de[faui43.informatik. uni-erlangen.de] CNN: Kissinger interview shortly... ***********13 HOURS************* well, I'm going to leave. I've been up for 24 hours. Someone take over NPR for if you will... bye. CAN ANYBODY MONITOR NPR? Ministry of Defense appears to be only target in residential Baghdad that has been hit. Many targets in less populated areas have been "surgically" neutralised. One US pilot said some aircraft headed north toward Turkey, but no contact. An F15 pilot STEVE TATE of Michigan shot a Sparrow at an Iraqi aircraft - it exploded and disintegrated into the ground. The UNCONFIRMED report of North-heading jets referred to IRAQI jets. (ABC). THEREHAS NOT BEEN OFFICIAL NEWS FOR A WHILE - Press conference due in Suadi Arabia due in 15 minutes. CNN Kissinger interview: Iraqi surrenders can be expected soon. SH cannot resist for a sustained period. CNN London: Air Chief Marshall HIND has reported attacks on IRAQI airfields and Radar. The efficiency is impressive - Allied attcks with hundreds of AC in the air simulataneusly. CNN LONDON continuing: Detailed preparation has paid off. Raids are continuing at a high rate. There have been false alarms about SCUD attacks. The Iraqi's seem to have been caught by surprise. CNN London: There have been no Contacts over Iraq. CNN London: Key elements of planning have been to minimise civilian casualties. There was an engine fire in the GR1 (Tornado) which may or may not have been due to enemy action. CNN London continuing: Tom King (Defense secretary) This is very early days. We have significantly damged Iraq defenses, but they may be conserving their resources. It's an encouraging start, but it is early. mode change ucselx.sdsu.edu +report +shamash UNCONFIRMED from correspondent in Riyadh: Allied/Iraqi AC contacts may have started UNCONFIRMED. 9 minutes until US press release in SA. ITN UK: Iraqi Ambassador has publicly stated that Iraq was damaged in air- strikes. SH=Saddam Hussein AC=Aircraft AAA=Anti-Aircraft- Artillery. DAVID HACKWORTH says SH won't have a chance in the air. RELAY going for a while - FrenchRad can take over? - 10 minutes.... Back in 10 minutes Has someone patched ircII to silence the signoff and mode change messages? Can other Oper take over - BYE for now 18000 tons of boms estimated dropped on Iraq. Bagdad bombed every 15 minutes. Pentagon: heavy casulaties in Iraqi armies. CNN: 50 iraqi tanks surrendered. Sadam on iraqi radio: Iraq won't give up. War has started. Sadam: iraqi soldiers fought like lions. Pentagon: one US airplane lost. Ryad: panic among foreigners still unequiped with masks. French oil companies freeze their prices SH is saying the Satan in the Whitehouse will be overthrown. CHANEY has confirmed one US AC has been grounded by Iraqi defenses WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The cost of a war against Iraq could add from $28. billion to $86 billion to the military budget, according to a. congressional analysis. The Congressional Budget Office, in a staff report, said that added. costs for Operation Desert Shield -- if the war started soon -- would. total between $17 billion and $35 billion in the current fiscal year. that ends Sept. 30. CNN: allied forces control the skies. KISSINGER is saying WAR may be over within 2 weeks Iraqi airplane fdowned by Sparrow missile from US F15 in air No unnecessary nickname changes, pls. CNN: Iraqi defense ministry in Bagdad destroyed. Brit defense ministr: 1 UK Tornado plane and its crew disappeared after one motor went on fire KISSINGER: There has been a general OVERestimation of Iraqi forces, by everyone. Now that the War Machine which was developed to fight the Soviets has been turned on Iraq, the UN forces will destroy the offensive capabilities of Iraq. KISSINGER: But their defensive capabilities must be maintained, otherwise other regional countries could attack Iraq NDR (germany) UNCONFIRMED iraqi air-attack to south of saudi-arabia PENTAGON: Confirmation of F15 lost over Kuwait. Status of aircrew unknown. US Military briefing in SA still awaited. TASS: Sadam H palace hit US Media: Washington Post "US ALIIES LAUNCH MASSIVE ATTACK" Close flying of american air planes in the last week caused the Iraqi to go on high alert and start lots of electronic equipment, which allowed US forces to find their frequencies and jam them this morning. Radars were both jammed and fed with incorrect info. Iraqi radio jammed too UK journalist: Bagdad bery badly hit ABC report "very formidable" capabilities still remain in Iraqi armoury. Their Artillery is very powerful. All missile locations are not yet known. US navy had launched Tomahawk missiles against iraqi military installation. US: Bush is about to have breakfast (serious...!) SA US MILITARY BRIEFING: Col. SCOTT: DESERT STORM began today NDR: Bagdad tolds about 14 Jets from the allies destroyed Israel: Defense minister says danger cannot yet be dismissed briefing: Massive strike - over 750 sorties by US, UK, SA, French & Kuwait AC Pope: call to peace. US denies info about 14 downed jets BRIEF: Limited response & minimal resistance Gorbatchev said he tried one hour before the war to convince Hussain to announce retreat from Kuwait BRIEF: US used F15, F16, F4g, A10, F111, F117, B52, F18, Harriers, A7, A6, AH64 NDR: stores in Turkey - east are closed They used guided and unguided missiles, as well as Tomahawks. Early indications are encouraging EEC foreign and defence ministers meet today in paris F15 Eagles, F14 Tomahawks & also Hornets provided cover for attack AC. WW type AC also used France on alert against potential terrorism AIR REFUELLERS FROM FRENCH AIRFORCE USED< ALSO FRENCH JAGUARS Kuwaitis in France jubilant about the war There have been NO reports of SCUD launches. US citizens in region are advised to stay at home. GOALS: Iraq must leave Kuwait Here report of ~5 skud launches, none hitting close home GOALS:Restore government of Kuwait NDR: launching 5 Scuds - one hit near Riad "The Prez, congress, Americans and all people stand united...May God be with you..". That was Lt. Col. Mike SCOTT NDR: no attack from Turkey US F15 downed. UK Tornado lost. No questions from reporters were entertained after that statement. 18,000 tons = 1.5 x Hiroshima bom -- already dropped. Pentagon: Iraqi airforce virtually wiped out. Prez guard too 269 users, 107 servers, 158 +report NDR: in Munic: resignation of the people. 3SAT: 4 french airplanes hit TO ANYONE STILL READING: The following messages are being forwarded by anonymous members of this net: please take note. This war won't end in 2 hours like a war movie. things won't happen that. +quickly either... the media tend to encourage one to think every minutesomething happens. these are REAL people DYING*... go back home NDR USA said: there are not 14 Jets lost - thats what Iraq said Sit back. These were messages I was asked to forward RTL: Sondersendung um 18:45 Wallops from netserv2.its.rpi.edu: Received SQUIT ira.uka.de from bucsd.bu.edu. Wallops from ira.uka. de: Remote 'CONNECT nets* 6667' from PeaceServ. Wallops from ira.uka.de: Received SQUIT netserv2.its.rpi.edu from noc.belwue.de does anybody have any objections to -m'ing this channel? e fur D1 fine ... any news ?? sorry all flamers: we have a moderated channel without chop at every burp! lolo: don't think that's a good idea, some ppl have logs of this channel running, expecting only news here ANTEK +report. Arne +report. Over +report. pekoil +report ei-hop +report. log +report. zaphod2 +report. Met +report WDR: Dollar: 1,54 DM Wallops from msa: hmm.. +report channel has become useles? nobody is reporting anymore.... :) -- SUMMARY of last hours -- ( various sources ) +++ 4 French aircrafts hit, 1 pilot injured slightly! All 4 returned. +++ French foreign minister reports enemy contact of French ground-troops! +++ 1 British Tornado missing after fire in engine (reason unkown). +++ 1 American F14 missing! +++ 18 000 tons of bombs till now! +++ Iraqi airforce nearly completely destroyed! +++ lauching of 5 Iraqi SCUDs not confirmed! +++ Saddam Hussein says: "The mothe of all battles has begun! Iraqi soldiers. fight like lions! We will win!". +++ Kissinger says: "Battle maybe over within 14 days!" 1 Scud could hit near RIAD I heard Waldi : that's unconfirmed by now mad: they said it on radio Wallops from Avalon: anybody know where fairhope.andrew.cmu.edu is geographically ?? now is *NOT* a good time for links to be just anywhere. Wallops from msa: Avalon, now is *also* not good time to squit links, even if seeminly bad! Maybe very hard to get up once broken... cnn: can hear aircrafts overhead. [3 reporters] no news from here until 15:00 MEZ Any reports on the CNN people at the hotel? no news until 15:00 MEZ from here cnn people at hotel: are on cnn now. somebody give the report. I am preoccupied :( help ircii nothing to say about lost. 1 Britain Tornado hit. no ground attacks. until now. hits to Bagdad. they said the iraqi air force is mostly destroyed - new wave of attacks - allied forces have the Power on air. Saddam said: they hit civil targets - they wont go back Some telephone lines to Baghdad still running, but all other. +communications cut. No Tomahawk video yet. ..over 100 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles. +(T-LAM) used CNN tanks of a raffinerie hit 12 French Jaguar jets attacked targets in Iraq No attack on Israel so far; Israeli officials discourage any. +celebration Gorbatschov: Saddam is the agressor afn/pentagon : the operation is still an air operation. Soviet troops on southern border nearest Iraq on highest alert. AFN/PENTAGON: there might be othe plane damages of the USAF. Chinese govt calls for restraint on both sides. Lybia says attack should be isolated to liberation of Kuwait. Jordan says US action is "naked act of aggression". North Sea oil down $5-6 per barrel hej... Over 1000 air-sorties in 14 hours of operation so far (Pentagon). 1 US plane lost, 1 British plane lost. Pentagon: will hit targets a second time if necessary. Pentagon: Operation will continue until Saddam is forced out of. AFN/PENTAGON: they couldn't distroy the mobile launche system of the. +iraquis. Bush & Major planned operation about a month ago if deadline was. +reached. AFN/PENTEGON: the iraquis airforce isnot destroyed fully. Major: No stop in operation for negotiations According to military experts -- biggest air raid in history Wallops from Kaizzu: lehtori.tut.fi going down for benchmarks... Iraqi air force almost did not react except downed a US F15 killing its pilot British public opinion strongly behind military action Wallops from Phaedrus: a useful thing to do may be to check for ghosts on your servers and dispatch with them... there has been a lot of ghosting going on. Criticism of operation from German government and opposition Moves of UK troops in S.A. - 7th brigade -- noted. Military terminal at Bagdad airport out of commission 80% of Germans against use of military force Several oil platforms are ablaze there are o lot of demonstrations going on in germany. .. US has no interest in destroying Iraq as a country. AFN/PENTAGON: they not confirm that there is a ground move Cheney: estimates US losses to 1 plane + 1 pilot sorry, German govt supports action; opposition opposes Cheney: UK losses 1 plane +crew Bush says attacks going well War good for money: most stock exchanges up. One polit. in german TV told germans to be careful about judging, since SH might have become a much bigger danger to the planet if he given time would have managed to get hold of sbig nuclear weapons AFN/PENTAGON: ove Sure values go down: gold and swiss franc Allied reports suggested that 1st wave devastated Iraqi fdefences. CNN::unconfirmed report of 50 iraqi tank crews deserting... "NICOSIA -AP- Abulsalam Jalloud, right-hand man of Libyan leader. +Moammar" "Gadhafi, warned that Muslims would wage a Holy War to expel the. +U.S.-led". "allied forces from Saudi Arabia, Tehran radio reported today.". BBC World Service Gulf coverage now taking half-hour break G'al Collin Powell: 80% of sorties are efficient. rest of 20% problems (meteorological, mechanical etc...). Gal. Powell: preliminary results only. Over 750 sorties by now. Limited Iraqi response. Ground offensive not starting in less than a week, US sources estimate. Bye now. Remember: this is not a movie. It won't be over in 2 hours, and events won't happen as often as in a movie. Israeli Govt - US attack effective, but Iraqi attack at Israel still. +possible -Teknomage- SH:::unconfiremed...50 Iraqi tank crews deserted...from Egyptian. News Tel Aviv very quiet Gun camera footage and footage from the ground in Iraq supposedly should be available tinoght. Yitzak Rabin: First battle does not win a war. (Stealth:+WAR) Two pilots were rescued from the gulf. (Stealth:+WAR) One British plane is missing as well, no information on the pilots Kuwait was often criticised by other Arab countries because guest workers to Kuwait (about half the population) had no citizens rights. Rumours that Kuwaiti population registers have been destroyed. Wallops from Stealth: Where is BYU.edu located, please? Wallops from nic.funet.fi: Received SQUIT otax.tky. hut.fi from *.joensuu.fi[joyds3.joensuu.fi] Swedish PTT installs new phone lines at Swedish Army UN dept because so many want to work at the MASH Sweden is sending to the Gulf area. MASH= Mobile Army Surgery Hospital 10 Italian fighter-bombers going under US command Wallops from jon: what is thie +report/peaceserv thing? What is the point? Local stn now says US jet down is F18 Hornet Powell: 80 % (or more) hit rate. **MILITARY BRIEFING FROM SAUDI ARABIA on CNN**. Iraqi Defence HQ hit by 3 Cruise missiles Gorby is polling Euro Comunity leaders to seek some kind of peace initiative (for the Gulf war). PDS-Chief Gyse said that the war have only econmic reason (PDS is the communist/socialist party in the FDR) Wallops from msa: About increasing SendQ buffer limit in backbones? What value people have started using? 40KBytes? 64Kbytes? 100Kbytes? Aeh. FDR = FRG = Germany Some oil installations in Baghdad hit in raids Belgium and Italian forces now under command of US- Army Saddam responds with defiant statesments that US forces will be crushed. Iraqi Radio claims 14 aircraft shot down. attacks on Baghdad have now ceased. Damage restricted to immediate areas around strategic installations US DoD says 1 US and 1 Brit. plane shot down. Tunisia asks for killing to stop, to resume talks Should PeaceServ stop sending Wallops to the channel? /m lynx your opinion. Attacks on Iraqi western missile sights have yet to be evaluated I find a lot of indecision - Those who do not want it use /ignore peaceserv public please Wallops from Crawdad: What's a good value for the ircd send queue size today? I need to recompile... Wallops from Armin: I would suggest not more than 64K.. No it has no sense to dump these wallops, it was useful yesterday when they did reports via /wallops, no more wallops via peaceserv. Marine fighter & British bomber destroyed. Captain Steve Tate destroyed Iraqi F-1 heading toward Bag. used Fox1 missile at range of 4 miles,. 50 Iraqi tank crew surrendered. raids continuing... refinery hit. (next CBS report 9:40 central) channel. join +report anyone out there with a radio/tv to provide news? Patch for IRC-II2.02 available: You may set /on ^quit * /comment, so you dont get signoffs from a channel, available via anon-ftp on 131.159.0.10, file /net/irc/ircII2.02-changes.tar.Z, follow instructions inside armin: nice :) Gephardt says declaration of war unnecessary. RAI news: famous italians reporter hitten in Amman. John Major saying something in British Parliment. late news [cnn]. the three cnn journalists are ordered to stop broadcasting.. they're pleading not to. [thats it] strikes seem to be nicely surgical, avoiding residential areas. (sommon -> common) ndr-radio: turkish people escaping from the iraq-border in western direction iraqi tv: shows saddam praying. iraqu tv: currently. [on cnn]. cnn reporters will cease transmission as of now. 2:56 AEST There have been live transmissions on CNN all the while...IRAQ is now cutting them. off reporters offline due to government censorship. [thats why :)] TeknoCNN> they just took their transmissio equipment, no more live broadcasts, they will be allowed to release tapes,but they will be checked over Possibly related item? "Connectivity between the NSFNet and the Milnet has not been available since 22:00 EST on 1/16/91." (But it's back now) shopov. m. *ohno* 80% of the allied forces' air strikes have succeeded. CNN has reported that a group of 50 Iraqui tanks has surrendered to Egyptian forces in SA. Is there any additional information or confirmation of this report available? ABC Radio here in pittsburgh confirms the alleged iraqi defection US has over 400K troops ready to go-go. Scratch> CNN quote from Shaw (or one of the other two): They were going to work with the iraquis at their tv station, since their comm link was shut down by the "post office". Scratch> Turkey president: "I am on the side of the United Nations". Scratch> "I think he [Hussein] cannot survive anymore." Turkey Pres. FAA imposed airport security measures - no curbside checkin, no non-passengers inside concourses. CBS says allies about to launch a ground attack on Kuwait! CNN reporters shut down by Baghdad CNN claims they will have video from the attack within the hour. Prince Hassan: "Equivalent to Hiroshima." AT&T reports that all its telephone lines to iraq are down Prince Hassan: "A casualty of the crisis. " (on CNN censorship) Hassan also: "There has been no Jordanian engagement". Stock market going way up. No pix until tomorrow....US Military has the video footage. #Ilham# i am restarting garfield.mit.edu irc server with a bigger buffer .... sorry for the net.burp Anti-war protesters broke into the admin building at U of Chicago - tried to get into the president's office, but didn't get that far. "over 100 tomahawk missiles fired." :CNN CNN: American plane is down, survivors spotted, rescue forces responding, trying to get to survivors before Iraqis. #johnnyb# Attention: If your server is having problems connecting, you are free to use helium.elec.ufl.edu, reef. cis.ufl.edu, and other open client servers. Dow up 90 points. oil now at $23.Xx a barrel Interest rates up, gold price down, dollar strong ABC Radio reports that the pentagon denied the reports of iraqi defection Iran says Iraqi TV went off the air very suddenly A-10 was used against Iraqi ground forces to auppress counteroffensives massive arrests of demonstrators expected in San francisco "We keep hearing and hearing stories of defections - is there any way to [verfiy them]?" "Not yet" CNN expects to have their tapes from Baghdad shown from Jordan soon i heard that an iraqi tank troop surrendered to egyptian forces. Live from Tel-Aviv: "Nothing is going on here." "Nothing has happened that affects this country." NPR: Netherlands forces just placed themselves under allied command. NPR: Italy and Canada are prepared in case they are needed.. crude oil has droped to beloe $23/barrel NPR: Dow Jones Industrial Ave up 92 Saddam hussein was seen on the streets today. Ambassador from Jordan says conditions in Jordan are very calm (free kuwait (slanted info?)) kuwaiti student describing situation there: it's a little calm in kuwait today. According to hospital there are alot of casualties. (in hundreds) The casualties are iraqi soldiers. (Jordanian ambassador) "Our position ... has been quite clear - Jordan will not be used as a road in this conflict, either by land or by air" New York Post has front page with Huuuuge lettering that reads "KISS IT GOODBYE" and a large picture of Saddam kissing the ground. CNN: fights in Kuwait City caused by the resistance movement. NPR "Town meeting of the air" to begin soon. I'll tell you the toll-free number you can call to ask questions of their panel off iraq radio "IRAQ shot down 44 allied aircraft and 23 missles" - hmmmm bs! #Hamlet# Just if you want to know...the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the US is speaking on TV :-) #Hamlet# On CNN :-) Iraq claims 23 of their civilians killed, 66 wounded in attacks on towns & villages NPR:bagdad radio says women and children killed in attacks on villages (CNN) kuwaiti ambassador: "I also have an update here on the status of the military operation, in addition to the statement issued I would add that we have been monitoring operation desert storm closely over the psat two days. thus far i would report that one of our planes has not returned to our base and the pilot has ejected over the saudi/kuwaiti border. also there are reports of iraqi defections in kuwait but I hasted to add that the numbers are so far unconfirmed. To conclude this let me say on behalf of my people and govt we are greatful to all our brothers, allies and friends led by the USA and. our brothers in saudi arabia in coming to our assistance to liberate kuwait. We hope this will conclude quickly and decisively. (questions from reporters now). kuwaiti amb to us: (ground action?) "we have no confirmation of ground action." Hi complx... hi Wie kann man auf ein File zugreifen das ein 'blank" im Namen hat? wer hat details von den Unis ? Stuttgart hat nen Streik beschlossen... pepe: mit wildcards, z.B. barf?barf pepe: In Anfuehrungszeichen schreiben. com: Hier auch. Allerdings heisst es "Raum fuer Freiraeume" aber das ergebnis ist gleich. Erstmal fuer eine Woche. genau, heir auch fuer eine woche. Die haben ja alle SOOO ein vertrauen in die "allierten Streitkraefte", dasz es in einer woche vorbei ist :) com: :-) ich werde versuchen, nen ftp-directory auf der rusmv1 zu bekommen... *gaehn* Guenthi: z.B. "eins zwei"? weil 'eins zwei' ging nicht aber gerade jetzt zieht die rusmv1 auf einen neuen processor/host :). laeuft auf report nix ? hmm, ich kuck mal auf +WAR frodo: thanx IRAQ HAD F-1 MIRAGES TOO. I LIKE MY CAPS LOCK. :) Caps lock please carpet bombing is MASS bombing using heavy bombers NO. on sci.military a list of forces in the gulf was posted. FYI. on sci.military a list of forces in the gulf was posted. FYI. hmm stridre: *grin* YES. Report from Swan: various officials from all over echo the sentiment that things are not going to be easy at all, and a very bloody ground war will probbaly still be necessary despite air successes.  I AM! ? NO. :P if husein unites the most fo the moslem world, we are in deep sh*t stop that  just FYI, in sci.military a list of forces in the gulf was posted... So, anyone think it's funny that that the French Mirages are being used to fight the allies (and the french, since they jumped it) /comm ken +WAR stop with the ^G's please what is that for fisu? I just turned off mu sound I thought that carpet bombing had begun on the "green troops". jph: quite humorous you can do /set sudible_bell off sudible? Hal: What difference that would make, after all , we have all the nukes. audible No carpet bombing that I'm aware of - surgical bombing on everything including elite troops! Report from Swan: The british parliament is almost unanimously behind the govertment efforts in the gulf. Any casualty counts yet (on iraqui tropps)? I wish this program didn't tell us every second that some one got on or off the channel ee11: nukes aren't acceptable... They HAVE sent 20 b-52's out over Iraq. What else could they be doing? nukes aren't necessary. nicky: /on ^join * /comm nicky: try /m peaceserv look what the b52's are doing... Isn't the B52 used to carry missiles near their targets more than in the normal bombing ? nicky: i agree, I've been searching for a way to ignore that and /on ^leave * /comm Saddam is a powerhungry man, he uses islam and Palestinians as an instrument BOMBING STRATIGIC MILITARY SITES ONLY - AWAY FROM CITIES...NOT REALLY CARPET BOMBING CITY. hi Dave Report from Swan: various palestinians express sadness that their great hope, saddam hussein is being hit. LIKE THE CHEMICAL PLANTS RIGHT! Is CNN still off in Baghdad? :). CNN IS OFF. is off ? even Moscow is behind us! ! ! @ @ # # $ $ % % ^ ^ & & * * ( ( ) ). (((((STEREO))))) jph ? thanks Cap soviet appealed to jordan to stay out of war. rs: not that I know of LAST LIVE BROADCAST FROM BAGDAD AT 11AM EASTERN. Hal: So what ? So is chemical weapons ... to whom can they complain if the rules are broke. And I meaned nukes aren't needed against Iraq at all. But if it becomes ( seems unpropable ) Islamic <-> Christian countries war ... that would be so big that we co Pretty angry there Napoleon Rserc: no way for the signoffmsg uld use 'em. Report from Swan: Major news! UN relief organization will pay for jordanian refugee problem, thus relieving massive human suffering. IRAQIS DID NOT LIKE THE REPORTS OF THE DAMAGE FROM CNN does anyone know if there is a mil.* UseNet groups? like I said, apparently we don't need nukes....... YUP. did anyone notice how bizarre Bernie Shaw of CNN was acting late last night? nicky: The KGB-troops terrorised Latvia last night. Some1: there is a patch availabe for signoff. /msg peaceserv for that. Report from NPR: US jet was downed by a SAM. Efforts underway to rescue Kuwaiti pilot IRAQIS REPORTEDLY DID NOT WANT US INTELLIGENCE TO KNOW THE SUCCESS OF THEIR MISSIONS - HENCE THE CENSORSHIP. Maleger: yeah, but I probably would be weird too if I was there. ee11: I don't wee us using nukes while they don't have them.... wait til saddam nukes new york... that'll signal the end of the war... peaceserv Maleger: probably tired (captainJ) Are you POSITIVE that carpet bombings have not yet begun? I thought I heard it on the radio Yeah, after not sleeping for thirty hour and having massive bombs going off over your head, you'd feel a little bizzarre also, eh? I got the feeling Bernie wanted to be flying a plane last night So then say fuck the KGB, not Moscow.(by the way I'm only teasing you) (IF ITS HAPPENING NOW, ITS POSSIBLE). Everyone is talking rumors because noone knows the truth Report from Swan: John Major (brit prime minister) speaking live. Bernie is an aggressive man. lisbet is 100% correct!!!! libet: NO shit. I agree. Let's hear facts people. Bernie was a scared man. What else can one do, lisbet? how do you think President Bush is informed? CNN GUYS WERE HIDING UNDER TABLES - THEY WERE QUITE SCARED. He has a right to be. I RELAY FACTS. (IN CAPS) What's the latest guys? I mreally like Bernie who else would say thge attacks are shaking him to his "soul"? Opinions like this. :) Bush probably informed from irc I WOULD BE SCARD TOO IF I WAS IN BAGDAG so, exactly how sucessful was the initial attack? Report from Swan: "have given Iraq every opportunity to withdraw. Have patiently sought peace but Hussein chose war. Rebuffed even the secretary general. World agreed saddam must withdraw or face war. ME TOO. s Bush is informed but can't tell us because of security Hal: As I said ... they are too heavy for just Saddam, but against all islamic world. *KNOCK CAPS HARD, TO NO AVAIL* CJ: they were hiding under the tables because they didn't want to be discovered by a building sweep and made to go dwonstairs.... nickserv I'm not making fun of Bernie,just noting his use of words jph: we killed 80 percent of our targets according to ABC news. That's what I thought... I understanf Maleger Stop printing in CAPS, you cocky bastards! Soul: Were you nervous when we went in on how that would affect you, like if we missed? WHO? Report from Swan: (that was John Major prime minister of britain) kit: is that very sucessful compared to other wars? YOU YOU BASTARD!!! Report from Nati: PLO person claims that no terorist actions were planed anywhere in the world. come on men, no fighting now jph: VERY. WE GOTO, SIGHTED, COMFIRMED, AND LAUNCHED ATTACKS ON 80% OF OUR TARGETS JPH - JCS IS VERY PLEASED WITH RESULTS. Okay, I appologise. By the way this is really enjoyable SORRY I this beter back nicky: I agree, this is my first time, and it's incredible! What is your first time? Stridre please try to make sense Report from NPR: Harriers and B52s used in latest attack on armored sites in Iraq this is a good time to be on irc for sure! Using the irc Report from Swan: Turkey news! finally. 48 US aircraft added to Turkey to appx 100. Turkey is seeking security from allies/US/NATO. Turkey needs economic assistance from west. first time alpha1? Will you respect us in the morning though? I want to kmnow if we are still flying helicopter missions over Kuwait....... listbet: there is tension evryday here, so the war is not something different from other day. Did Turkey declare war yet? RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE begun random arrestings on Lithuania, 11 already taken. Situation in Latvia is cooled down a little. how do I send reports to peaceserv? This is more informative than any other media that I've witnessed esp. on this war. alpha1: MY first too, I'm overwhelmed! Don't get kinky on us now Deryni KUWAITI EYE WITNESS: SOLDIERS ARE MAD AT US - VERY AGGRESSIVE ACTIVITY IN KUWAIT. ON OUR ATTACKS 80% IS FOR THE LAUNCH OF BOMBS AND MISSILES NOT FOR THEIR HITS Report from Swan: Turkey has 150 mile border with iraq, 125-150,000 forces. fewer iraqi forces on other side. Deryni: I don't know, I feel violated. But, no regrets Soul True. But I am glad, maybe after this ends you will have a little peace, ARe you in the army? and has Turkey decided to allow us to fly missions from bases there? :-) jph: "/msg PeaceServ ......" I was a virgin till today as well fellahs Report from Swan: There are 15,000 people demonstrating in Stuttgart FRG. jph: /m peaceserv Oh like we all need to know..... geez........... ......... Turkey declared war about 1:00 am Eastern. eeep there they go.... ping gulp! OH GREAT... jesus Rscero: Are you sure? pong Where do you guys get all of your juicy info????? Report from Swan: Marines and various ground units approached kuwaiti border and are waiting there in a holding pattern. ack! Yeah I didn't konw by by love... by by happyness. so was turkey the first country to declare war? maybe they were in Iraq I know this mornign they were considering it Report from Swan: Does anyone have word about turkeys war declaration? Or Kurdish activity? rscere: does it mean turkey is going to attack ? yes, I was watching CNN when it was announced it. I hope the soviet union announces war also Turkey has jumped on the bandwagon with the U.S. because of recent developments. lisbet: i will be in the army after i finish studying(6 years of army). about the peace, the war did not change anything. CNN IS BEST NEWS SERVICE (IMO) say they border Iraq also Stridre: No chance Stridre: SU has no access to it ! WAR UN is considering re-convening the security council There are several countries in favor of reconvening the security council to order a halt to the US lead war. (algeria, yemen, libya). This idea has no support in the security council though. most veto countries have agreed to veto any such idea How about Chaina ? I haven't heard anything from china at all. no peace initiatives are expected from the UN.